View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
pueno
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2807
|
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
GURGLETROUSERS wrote: | To clarify above. (Was in a rush to get out this morning and may be misunderstood.)
Those working in the climate field have now accumulated a considerable body of research which leaves little doubt that warming from human activity is a significant factor.
Differences in interpretation hinge on the extent and severity of future changes, along with the social and economic consequences. Those consequences can hardly be just ignored.
Anyone now claiming that all the climate scientists have no integrity, and are all working to some hidden socialist agenda of world wealth distribution, is himself a political 'nut job.'
If the IPCC report is correct, give or take a reasonable range around their quoted figures, then the social and political consequences will indeed be serious. If counter theory of solar cooling cycle lasting for a century or so (still just a theory and, as yet, not quite provable) is correct it will hold the human warming factors (not disputed by the Russians) in check, or possible even reverse the trend.
I see no contradiction in that! |
Be careful. Mikey will unlike you.
. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
|
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
My position has been that there are much bigger fish to fry. Pakistan, Iranian and Korean nukes are a far more serious issue. Asteroids, Spanish flu, and political destabilization too. Just last month a large solar flare missed the earth by only a couple of degrees. Forget global warming. Our grid would have been fried. Back to the stone ages for 10 years. How many would die? Billions?
A growing and vibrant economy will allow us to adapt to change. Change is inevitable. The sun changes. The economy changes. CO2 changes. It may just be the permafrost is in a defrosting cycle that started 30 years ago and cannot be stopped no matter what we do.
How can anyone say that their model of this great earth and solar system could possibly be correct? I'd rather protect our food, water and air than chase boogie men. Is this a zero sum game? Won't there be areas of Canada who would have a longer growing season? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pueno
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2807
|
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
stevenbard wrote: | My position has been that there are much bigger fish to fry. Pakistan, Iranian and Korean nukes are a far more serious issue. Asteroids, Spanish flu, and political destabilization too. Just last month a large solar flare missed the earth by only a couple of degrees. Forget global warming. Our grid would have been fried. Back to the stone ages for 10 years. How many would die? Billions? |
Damn right! Your athlete's foot itch ranks right up there, too.
(OMG, we're doomed, doomed I tell you!!)
. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
|
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Global Warming
OMG We're Doomed, Doomed.. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
KGB-NP
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 2856
|
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
stevenbard wrote: | Won't there be areas of Canada who would have a longer growing season? |
Not this year! This winter is the first time I can remember the great lakes freezing over. Lake Erie is still mostly covered in ice. I wish there was more of a sign of "global non-cooling" here....at least this year.
Check it out:
http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/region_map.html |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pueno
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2807
|
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
stevenbard wrote: | Global Warming
OMG We're Doomed, Doomed.. |
Glad to see that you finally realize the possibility.
. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
|
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
And of course, the private sector will develop solutions to asteroid strikes without any help from the government. In the dreams of wing nuts. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
|
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
mac wrote: | And of course, the private sector will develop solutions to asteroid strikes without any help from the government. In the dreams of wing nuts. |
What, no wind in Berkley today? I find that hard to believe.
Just got back from a sesh on the ocean, that started at 10:00 am.
Do yourself a favor and go sail off some of your angst. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pueno
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2807
|
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
mac wrote: | And of course, the private sector will develop solutions to asteroid strikes without any help from the government. In the dreams of wing nuts. |
Wait!
Doesn't Mikey already have the lasers to shoot those suckers down?
Didn't he develop those on his own while sitting at his desk administering multi-bazillion Star Wars projects without wasting a dime?
. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You cannot attach files in this forum You cannot download files in this forum
|
|
|