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J64TWB
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think your guy is in pre spin mode. It is going to be the most concise and damning assesment to date. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Spot on Frederick. From the Guardian:
Quote: | Climate change has already left its mark "on all continents and across the oceans", damaging food crops, spreading disease, and melting glaciers, according to the leaked text of a blockbuster UN climate science report due out on Monday.
Government officials and scientists are gathered in Yokohama this week to wrangle over every line of a summary of the report before the final wording is released on Monday – the first update in seven years.
Nearly 500 people must sign off on the exact wording of the summary, including the 66 expert authors, 271 officials from 115 countries, and 57 observers.
But governments have already signed off on the critical finding that climate change is already having an effect, and that even a small amount of warming in the future could lead to "abrupt and irreversible changes", according to documents seen by the Guardian.
"In recent decades, changes in climate have caused impacts on natural and human systems on all continents and across the oceans," the final report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change will say.
Some parts of the world could soon be at a tipping point. For others, that tipping point has already arrived. "Both warm water coral reef and Arctic ecosystems are already experiencing irreversible regime shifts," the approved version of the report will say.
This will be the second of three reports on the causes, consequences of and solutions to climate change, drawing on researchers from arou |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:07 am Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | The IPCC is about to drop its other AGW assessment shoe, known as AR5-WGII. Its draft has been leaked.
... Summary, in five words: "Net improvement to human welfare."
The WSJ, Friday, at http://tinyurl.com/la3bqlw . |
Now the left wing AP assesses the same report. In five words, it says "We're all gonna die tomorrow".
Tell me with a straight face that this entire AGWA schtick isn't pure politics. |
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J64TWB
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:37 am Post subject: |
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"Gonna die tomorrow" is a little hype. Reversing a planetary increase in heat sounds tricky, but reality can be tricky. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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frederick23 wrote: | "Gonna die tomorrow" is a little hype. |
It's a LOT of hype ... in tune with the AP story. The AP said the IPCC had to invoke whole new levels of adjectives and colors to represent the extreme new levels of risks "discovered" since the previous report.
Translation: The IPCC saw the recent polls showing the voters are on to the alarmist scam, and had to ramp up the rhetoric and fear-mongering if they're to have even a chance at getting the U.S. to pay trillions in wealth equality reparations to the third world. |
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GURGLETROUSERS
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 2643
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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The science (significant human effect on global warming) as presented by the overwhelming body of credible free from bias research over the last couple of years, does now seem to be unquestionable. While the precisely presented figures may not be accurate, only a blind fool could argue it's all a scam.
I still want to believe that the predicted cooling phase will, to an uncertain degree, modify and counteract the warming, but it needs to be showing some evidence of doing so within a couple or so years, or just remain a theory. If just theoretical and not a fact, the outlook looks somewhat grim. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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You didn't read the WSJ article. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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The latest U.S. Pew poll ranks AGW as number 19 out of the world's 20 greatest problems ... oddly enough the same position the Copenhagen Consensus of many nations ranked it years ago. Either everyone's reading "Cool It", or the world is catching on. |
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J64TWB
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Oddly, its always been number one here. |
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windoggi
Joined: 22 Feb 2002 Posts: 2743
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