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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Remember a few things about that scary time last October.

1. Isobars was in favor of a TARP-like program, as was I. McCain was completely paralyzed, to the point of being unwilling to say anything in the White House meeting. He was paralyzed because he professed to know not much, and was uncertain how it would play out in the election. Obama, on the other hand, was willing to work with Bush and all the Republicans that seems to have worked pretty well.

2. Not that much has been lost in the TARP program, and it seems, in the view of most of the pundits, to have stopped the economy from running off the cliff. That so called socialist Obama was confident enough in the team to have left nearly all Republicans running the economic sectors.

3. My stocks have nearly recovered, as I imagine Isobars have. But it is time to have the other shoe drop, and re-regulate (but not back to the point of the 1930's rules), as well as look to recovery of the other segments of the economy.

Isobars didn't think it was socialism when it was to protect him. Hmmmmm


Iso probably bought gold (and canned foods) - since he's dancing to Beck's tune.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5978441.shtml

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I googled Tri Cities newspaper and got the Tri City Herald...(did my homework) and searched Mike Fick. Guess what? He helped us get to the moon AND kept us safe from the commies! Here's his letter...the same old saw.

Deceptive legislation
As a professional rocket scientist, I helped Boeing design the Saturn V Apollo launch system, which put man on the moon. Later I directed significant, successful Star Wars research programs. With similar focus, insight and unbiased objectivity, I have spent hundreds of hours studying both sides of the global warming literature and debates, including the cap and trade system our governor, president and many legislators support.

I began with an open mind and reached the firm conclusion that cap and trade is the most deliberately deceptive, dangerous, expensive, useless, harmful, criminally misinformed, anti-capitalist, anti-American concept and piece of legislation ever considered by any government.

Its sole purpose is to transfer thousands of dollars in new taxes and price increases from each American person and business to Third World countries, for one simple reason: We earned it, they want it. It has zero to do with the ecology, everything to do with their envy of our economy. It will eliminate or outsource millions of jobs and subject us to global law.

Everyone must voice outrage directly to all senators to stop them from passing the catastrophic cap and trade bill already passed by our idiotic House of (mis) Representatives.

MIKE FICK, Kennewick

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the papers site

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, now I feel really bad about all the wise cracks I made over the last couple of years about a particular issue not being “rocket science” to isobars, as a good natured ribbing. About it not being that tough to comprehend or why he doesn’t get it? And low and behold it just so happens he is a rocket scientist. Just too frickin’ funny. It just hemorrhages irony. Hum, kind of makes you wonder though…


iso wrote…
“… Later I directed significant, successful Star Wars research programs…”

So a minimum of 100 billion spent on the SDI program is ok as long as it lined your back pocket. Even though from its inception SDI was not supposed to function (does it?), but instead, bankrupt the former U.S.S.R. Which it did nicely by destabilize the government and paving the way for capitalism. However, other forms of spending are just hogwash, socialism, or dems run amuck? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They couldn't even hit a missile when they knew what the path was. Socialism for defense contractors. Remember, $250 million spent lobbying against it. Keep those carbon subsidies from the Federal government rolling in. Nothing like socialism for the capitalists.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Fick at work:
Missile defense system test fails sixth direct-hit attempt in a row
By LAURA MYERS
Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- A weapon designed to knock enemy missiles out of the sky failed its sixth direct-hit attempt Monday, raising questions about the technological feasibility of a defense system that is now a national priority.

Pentagon officials in charge of the Army's Theater High-Altitude Area Defense missile program put a positive spin on the test, saying all targeting, radar and launch systems worked well together for the first time. And they predicted a complete success soon, although they couldn't say exactly what caused the miss.

``Everything seemed to work very, very well with the exception, obviously, of what happened relative to the closing end game for the missile,'' Lt. Gen. Lester Lyles, director of the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization, told a Pentagon news conference.

Critics of the program were skeptical, however, given that the Pentagon has spent more than $50 billion on research and limited testing on missile defense with few results, dating to the Reagan administration's ambitious space-based ``Star Wars'' system.

``At some point you have to wonder if this is in the category of developing fusion power,'' said John Pike of the Federation of American Scientists. ``The fact is, even the smallest malfunction means you missed the target. It says something about how difficult this is to do. Everything has to work exactly right, or it doesn't work at all.''


High-altitude strikes

The Theater High-Altitude Area Defense is designed to strike enemy missiles at altitudes of 800 miles and higher -- just the kinds of weapons that nations such as Iran, North Korea and Pakistan are developing, raising the threat to U.S. troops and allies overseas.

Lyles said scientists won't know exactly what went wrong with the hit-to-kill part of the missile test until reviewing radar, infrared and visual data. The telemetry system, which tracks how the system is performing, went down one minute into the test, which could hamper efforts to figure out the problem and try to correct it, he said.

Monday's test was the ninth in a series of 13 flight tests for the program and the sixth attempt at intercepting a missile. The system has cost $3.8 billion so far.

The Theater High-Altitude Area Defense -- by definition a regional rather than national missile defense system that could protect American cities from attack -- has technology that is the most sophisticated military weaponry, and it would contribute to development of a system that could protect the United States.

In mid-March, the House and Senate passed separate bills making the deployment of a national missile defense as soon as possible a U.S. government priority.


Administration's shift

President Clinton, who had threatened to veto similar legislation in the past, this year proposed spending $6.6 billion more through 2005 for missile defense work.

Given the technological hurdles, the administration moved its target date for deploying a national missile defense system -- if one can be built -- from 2003 to 2005.

On Monday, the missile came within 10 to 30 yards of hitting its target, a modified Minuteman 2 missile called a Hera, during an early-morning test at the White Sands Missile Range, N.M. The missile self-destructed 10 seconds after the miss, which occurred about 300 meters above the ground.

The Pentagon charged Lockheed Martin Corp., the maker of the anti-missile system, a $15 million penalty for not achieving a body-to-body hit during Monday's test as required by its $15 billion contract, modified last June under congressional order.

Lockheed will have to achieve two successful hit-to-kill missile tests by June 30 or be penalized another $20 million, according to the contract. In all, the company could face up to $75 million in penalties by the end of 1999 if there are more failures.

The Pentagon could scrap the program or pump more money into the Navy's high-altitude missile defense system, which is still a year away from its first hit-to-kill test.

``We are looking at backup plans just in case,'' Lyles said.

The next Theater High-Altitude Area Defense flight test is scheduled for May.


Copyright © 1999 The Miami Herald
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200412/s1266063.htm

'Son of Star Wars' missile test fails

The first test in nearly two years of a planned multi-billion dollar United States anti-missile shield has failed, with the interceptor missile shutting down on its launch pad in the central Pacific before it was launched, the Pentagon said.

About 16 minutes earlier, a target missile carrying a mock warhead had been successfully launched from Kodiak Island, Alaska, the Pentagon's Missile Defence Agency said in a statement.

The aborted mission appeared likely to set back plans for activation of the rudimentary bulwark, known as "Son of Star Wars", against ballistic missiles that could be fired by countries like North Korea.

The system is a scaled-down version of a ballistic missile shield first outlined in March 1983 by President Ronald Reagan and derided by critics as "Star Wars".

In 2002, President George W. Bush pledged to have initial elements of the program up and running by the end of this year, although critics say that tests like the one on Wednesday failed to demonstrate any real-world capabilities.

"This is a serious setback for a program that had not attempted a flight
intercept test for two years," Philip Coyle, the Pentagon's chief weapons tester under Mr Reagan, said in an email exchange with Reuters.

The Missile Defence Agency said an unspecified "anomaly" had caused the interceptor to shut down automatically in its silo at the Kwajalein Test Range in the Marshall Islands.

The test had not been tied to the question of when to declare the system operational, said Richard Lehner, an agency spokesman.

"That's something that will have to be considered," he said.

Earlier this week the Missile Defence Agency postponed the test flight due to the failure of a radio transmitter.

It is not known what impact the failure will have on the Missile Defence Agency's plans for a fully-fledged intercept attempt next March or April.

In earlier tests, target missiles have been successfully intercepted in five out of eight attempts, but those have been under artificial conditions using some surrogate components.

Since the last test in December 2002, flight tests have been delayed or cancelled six times.

In December last year, Defence Minister Robert Hill announced that Australia would participate in the US missile defence program.

Suppose someone should tell the local newspaper? Mike, if you weren't a laughing stock before, you are now. Mo--a cartoon of Mike on the missile, please!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so...I did some more homework and looked in the "Forum" section of the Tri Cities Herald website. I found posts by someone called Apollo...sure seems familiar.

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/personas/?plckPersonaPage=PersonaComments&plckUserId=1da8a72aa738917ac60abfbba8a92897-52494&insiteUserId=1da8a72aa738917ac60abfbba8a92897-52494&sid=pluck.tri-cityherald.com

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
And:
Mo--a cartoon of Mike on the missile, please!


I don't usually take requests...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, in this case...




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