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tradewinds
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| I forgot to add to number 2 item- rid the US power system of the oil men and military industrial profiteers, take one half of what we send to Israel and use it to really help 3rd world countries with REAL self subsistence; no strings attached... (more money and acts toward the positive abroad= fewer enemies abroad). |
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isobars
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| keycocker wrote: | | You could gain a lot of respect here by just saying-I was wrong |
Where have I been wrong? Re-read carefully before responding. |
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ducati

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| the damn media now reports that he has ties to terrorist groups, so why are they downplaying the "terrorism?" |
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isobars
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Radical imam praises alleged Fort Hood shooter
By PAMELA HESS (AP) – Monday AM
WASHINGTON — The personal Web site for a radical American imam living in Yemen who had contact with two 9/11 hijackers is praising alleged Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan as a hero.
The posting Monday on the Web site for Anwar al Awlaki, who was a spiritual leader at two mosques where three 9/11 hijackers worshipped [and described by Hasan as one his favorite imams], said American Muslims who condemned the attacks on the Texas military base last week are hypocrites who have committed treason against their religion.
Two U.S. intelligence officials told The Associated Press the Web site was Al Awlaki's. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence collection.
Anwar said the only way a Muslim can justify serving in the U.S. military is if he intends to "follow in the footsteps of men like Nidal."
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
I repeat, Keycocker: what DID kill the 13 people who died in Hasan's attack if, as you claim, "he killed nobody"? |
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jpbassking

Joined: 19 May 1998 Posts: 2227 Location: Leo
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Can you believe Arab TV is calling that asshole a hero??? _________________ {JP:}====**** |
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tradewinds
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| And the military knew he had emailed the radical iman who served at the Virginia mosque when he had his mom's funeral there and has since moved to Afghanistan and is a radical organizer there--- he had emailed him more than once several mo. ago... and yet the military ignored it!!!!! It's probably due in part to the pressure to be PC--- Mike's point that it is dangerous to ignore the reality-- and also they too probably didn't want to believe that one of their own would turn--- but then the military is always testing people's loyalty- when I lived in San Diego and met alot of Navy guys I would hear stories about how they would take them in to a room and try to break them-hold them for days with no warning, not let them sleep for 2 nights- it sounded cruel but I can see why they need to- officers have alot of information and alot of people's lives depend on them not breaking. So why didn't they do that with him? Just because they needed psychiatrists so badly? Sadly- alot of people had to die and be injured for the military to learn a lesson. |
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feuser

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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: |
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I don't know, but I can't understand that the mental condition of this man went unnoticed and unchecked. You'd think that special attention would be paid to the mental state of soldiers about to deploy. This looks definitely like a screwup to me.
To me, the act in itself is lunacy. It doesn't serve any purpose, nor is opening fire into an unarmed crowd brave by any standards. It most certainly doesn't deserve the attention it is getting.
Let's pay attention to who will profit from this crime. This crisis means TV ratings, further entrenchment of political and cultural adversaries. The deepening of the rift between the East and West serves only those who're not interested progress towards peaceful coëxistence.
Mike said it here:
"why isn't [terrorism] being shouted from the "news" media most of you watch..." _________________ florian - ny22
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feuser

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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| tradewinds wrote: | | And the military knew he had emailed the radical iman who served at the Virginia mosque when he had his mom's funeral there and has since moved to Afghanistan and is a radical organizer there--- he had emailed him more than once several mo. ago... and yet the military ignored it!!!!! It's probably due in part to the pressure to be PC.... |
I don't see how that has anything to do with PC. If you have evidence that one of your soldiers is troubled, let alone in contact with a known radical, you don't need to do a lot of profiling. You just need to act upon the information and intervene before the guy walks into a gun shop, legally acquires a body-armor penetrating handgun and proceeds to kill thirteen people with it.
http://www.gundealeronline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3868929230 _________________ florian - ny22
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isobars
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| tradewinds wrote: | | alot of people had to die and be injured for the military to learn a lesson. |
Did they learn a lesson? The Army Chief of Staff still insists that diversity is worth more than security, or some such nonsense. |
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feuser

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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| isobars wrote: | | tradewinds wrote: | | alot of people had to die and be injured for the military to learn a lesson. |
Did they learn a lesson? The Army Chief of Staff still insists that diversity is worth more than security, or some such nonsense. |
Yes, purge the Army from all ethnic groups whose members have committed violent crimes in the past. What a genius. _________________ florian - ny22
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