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PROOF: Obama IS the end of the free world
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isobars



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama promised and keeps promising transparency. Idiots believe him, while in fact a 50-page report by the Center for Effective Government shows that "this white house has withheld decisions and documents that have the force of law , has classified documents without justification, and has prosecuted whistleblowers at record rates. Nine cases against federal employee whistleblowers for leaks have been filed since 1917; 6 were under Obama.

Yet the White House leaks and/or ignores leaks about the methods, means, and sources which delivered bin Laden on his watch, shortly after which 18 Seal Team Six members are killed and the doctor who delivered bin Laden has been tortured ever since because the administration outed him for boasting (i.e., campaign) rights. He also presides over the imprisonment of the man on whose documentary the administration falsely blamed Benghazi. Aaaannnnd after promising to our faces that he would deliver any Benghazi information as soon as it is available, congressmen and news media are just finding out THIS WEEK that the administration has been hiding one or many Benghazi survivors all this time.

We've never had such a lying, deceptive, secretive, opaque hypocrite in the White House before, not even Bill Clinton.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Let me go back and challenge Bard and NW to provide a substantive answer. The John Birch Society was co-sponsor of the Conservative Political Action Committee’s annual meeting in 2010. My source for that is a senior editor at Newsweek. The father of the Koch's was one of the founders, and the sons don't fall far from the tree:

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Billionaire brothers David and Charles Koch have been dominant financiers for conservative front groups and nonprofits for nearly three decades. Their money has flowed to organizations dedicated to lobbying for corporate and upper income tax cuts, as well as to groups responsible for mobilizing Tea Party rallies against President Obama. But the Koch family’s association with fringe right-wing groups began a generation earlier with Fred Koch, the patriarch of the clan.

Fred not only founded the company now known as Koch Industries, he also was a founding member of the John Birch Society. As a founding board member, Fred helped engineer a hysterical wave of attacks on labor, intellectuals, public education, liberal clergy members, and other pillars of society he viewed as a threat. Birchers decried everyone from former President Eisenhower to water utility administrators as pawns in a global communist conspiracy. In the last two years, as the Koch name has become synonymous with right-wing plutocracy in the United States, the Koch family has played down its relation to the Birchers.

However, the New American, the official mouthpiece of the John Birch Society, published a piece this morning celebrating Fred and the Koch family’s pivotal role in developing the group:


Koch warned that American institutions were honeycombed with communist subversives, from labor unions and tax-free foundations to universities and churches. Art and newsprint, radio and television — all these media had been transmuted into vehicles of communist propaganda. [...] Fred Koch was no fly-by-night pamphleteer. He spent a generous portion of his later years using his wealth and influence to fight the communism he abhorred. He was an early member of the The John Birch Society’s National Council, an advisory group to JBS founder Robert Welch. Koch supported a variety of freedom-related causes, all the while continuing to build the company today known as Koch Industries.

The Bircher ode to Koch glosses over Fred’s record of bigotry. In a booklet he authored, Fred railed against civil rights leaders, and claimed the movement against racial segregation was a communist plot to use African Americans to destabilize the country. The Koch-funded Birchers held numerous rallies during the ’60s claiming integration would lead to a “mongrelization” of the races.


I will talk trash when the self-brainwashed, who don't read much outside the Drudge report, make no substantive argument that the John Birch Society has re-emerged in the Tea Party and the role of the Koch's in particular. You are entitled to your own opinion--not your own facts.

LOL, I just love making you go around in circles, and it sure doesn't take much, and then you can't help yourself going off on a left wing rant.
And you have no idea what all I read, I just like sticking up for one of my many sources.
Maybe you should have a glass of some nice red wine and calm down a bit. Merlot is good, or kick it up a notch with a nice Pinot Noir.

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pueno



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey wrote:

We've never had such a lying, deceptive, secretive, opaque hypocrite in the White House before, not even Bill Clinton.

Cheney comes to mind......
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coboardhead wrote:
We do seem to be sheltering the investment class in this country.

Every competent person with two nickels to rub together should be a member of the investment class, and should be incentivized to do so. How else do public corporations, banks, pension funds, etc. get operating capital? His priorities should be sustenance, shelter, savings, then everything else ... darn near my own priorities throughout the 1990s when we invested 1/3 of our gross income after realizing that at almost 50 we had zero savings. Anything else and starving or being on the dole is his own damned fault. Only after savings should anyone buy TV sets, cell phones, new shoes, modern automobiles, etc. Yet look how many wage earners don't/didn't even save enough to qualify for matching contributions from their employers. FREE MONEY, yet they instead chose cigarettes and beer and new clothes and now demand that the government take the savings of others by the force of law and give it to them as unearned handouts just because they breathe.

Greece. Spain. France. USA.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey wrote:
...FREE MONEY...

Mikey, for once we agree.

You very definitely know how to get free money.

And where does your free money come form?

"...the savings of others by the force of law and give it to them as unearned handouts just because they breathe."
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just yesterday, he said we have not had a terror attack on the homeland since 9/11. Our Benghazi embassy is U.S. soil manned by U.S. civil servants and U.S. military, the Ft. Hood shooter was irrefutably carrying out radical jihad, and IIRC Boston has some relevance to the U.S. homeland.

Neither this jerk, nor Slick "I didn't have sex with that woman" Willy, nor George "Strategery" Bush gets to rewrite the dictionary.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't respond to Pueno, Mikey. He's calling you out for sucking at the federal teat, while excoriating others for doing the same. We know know you look at the posters you proudly claim to killfile, so how about you man up and address this issue straight on.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't respond to Pueno, Mikey. He's calling you out for sucking at the federal teat, while excoriating others for doing the same. We know know you look at the posters you proudly claim to killfile, so how about you man up and address this issue straight on.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't respond to Pueno, Mikey. He's calling you out for sucking at the federal teat, while excoriating others for doing the same. We know know you look at the posters you proudly claim to killfile, so how about you man up and address this issue straight on.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fricking website said no host connection.
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