PROOF: Obama IS the end of the free world

mac · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:49 am Post subject:

Clearly, NW, you have never negotiated anything of substance. Equally clearly, you will blame Obama for all things, and will not bother educating yourself enough to make a coherent argument. I have fifth graders who can craft a better argument.

keycocker · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598

He wants to pass a tax break for 98% of the American people.
He is on a tour reminding folks of his actual opinion, and you are sitting there assigning him an opinion you thought of yourself.
Are you familiar will the term Reality Based Politics?
Those who practice it can save our country, but if you like assigning opinions instead of actually listening to the other guy, then the fantasy world works better for you.

mac · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject:

Let's see--Obama won re-election based on raising taxes on the very rich, polls show that the public would blame the Republicans if we go over the cliff, the economy is in fact recovering, many of the Tea Party wing nuts lost--and diehards like NW think that the Republicans have actually put a realistic offer on the table.

Amateurism is the motto of no other organization in history except the Tea Party.

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

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swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

Now NW30, let me ask you, do you really think that Rep. Boehner's offer was a good one? You know, if someone gave me a smoke and mirrors offer that lacked crucial details, I wouldn't accept it. Furthermore, with such a lousy counter offer from Boehner, why on earth would I budge at all on my original offer.

When you think about it, by Boehner's suggestion that he's willing generate revenue through cutting unidentified deductions and loopholes, he's effectively blowing off Grover Norquist's pledge. So one wonders why he just doesn't accept President Obama's offer to raise the tax rate from 35 to 39.6% on those making in excess of $200-250K. Or, if he thinks that a 4.6% tax increase on wealthier folks is just too much to bear, he could counter with maybe a 37% rate, to include a possible cap the mortgage interest rate at maybe $50K. Another possibility would be to increase the $200-250K bracket up to $500-600K.

What's Boehner's plan going to be to address the AMT? At this point, it appears that he's ignoring it completely.

Let me ask you again NW30, you think that Boehner has made a serious counter offer?

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