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PROOF: Obama IS the end of the free world
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WindDoggie...it was tough to watch. The bullshit was coming fast and furious, and Obama looked like a fawn in the headlights. My favorite two lines of the debate were, "My plan includes pre-exisiting conditions!", and "I LOVE COAL"!!!!!!
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windoggi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw Obama's performance in the debate as very calculated. He chose to let Mitt run his mouth unopposed. Let it get out there so the fact checkers could rip it to shreds. And they are.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Mitt's debate team made good use of this."
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_gallop


You're spot on windoggie. I had never heard of the Gish Gallop before, but there's no doubt in my mind now that that debating strategy was used by Romney. While I wasn't at all fooled by the steady stream of outright falsehoods Romney blurted out, seemingly the pundits and those judging the debate didn't really care. Apparently, it was about quantity, and it had nothing to do with quality.
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mrgybe



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since you were so quickly able to see through Romney's falsehoods, will you give us a few examples.........and perhaps explain why the President wasn't a quick as you?
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boggsy--If you poke around and look for the numbers, which you can find here: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-the-jobs-report-looks-like-unskewed-2012-10 you can find that there has been an uptick in jobs, with a seasonal component, since 2010. So even with the housing meltdown, the economy was making a slow come back. In California, it looks like default/foreclosure numbers are back to the point where they are not a big drag on the economy any more. Of course this terrifies the righties--an actual recovery because of government action to prevent bank defaults and stimulate the economy? So they send out West and Welch to accuse Obama of conspiracy. It will appeal to the wing nut base.

I'm betting that Obama gets the baddies that killed the ambassador.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac...CA real estate is on fire. Software spending is at RECORD highs, thanks to the cloud. Tech is hiring. If you X out construction, and GOVT, hiring is getting much better.
When Obama, and the Seals get the thugs that took out Chris Stephens, Jack Welch and Rick Santelli are going to call bullshit!
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boggsy--Chris Steven's father was a Deputy Attorney General that I know well. It was a terrible thing, and on this one I'm rooting for the drones. It is an even worse thing to try to make political hay out of.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was a great American hero, and a hero to many in the Bay Area, I have client who knew him well.
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mrgybe



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He wasn't protected adequately. Someone needs to be held accountable for that.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Windoggie
Where do you got those rosy glasses, I have to get myself a pair, do they make the ladies all look like Carmen Electra too?
I think your on to something their, out smart your enemy by losing. BRILLANT
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