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madmax7



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Bay of Roses, Spain, just returned Reply with quote

Anyone familiar with the area?

There's a club mistral but looking for a place to stay for 5 days 4 adults.

If anyone has been there and has tips...

I don't know how close town is to facility (walking distance?)

Any info. Appreciated.

Max
PS heading there in mid June (grad present for daughter) Barcelona then north for a few days...


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geohaye



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know specifics, max, but I have heard that it's pretty windy and reliable certain months of the year...

To see the live wind speeds, forecasts, check the wind archives:

iWindsurf Costa Brava is here:
http://www.iwindsurf.com/windandwhere.iws?regionID=1983&is_beta=true


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: rosas Reply with quote

Hi,
June is not the best time for wind, better spring or fall.
but you may be lucky with the thermic wind if you can rent big gear.
Other ways there is Leucate right after the french border, it's the windiest spot in the region, good flat water condition and lots of places to rent gear.
Watch out, costa brava gets real crowded in summer.

have fun
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geohaye



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always good to hear from someone who really knows! From what galateo suggests, it sounds like the local thermal winds in Leucate work better than most places around -- even in June. If you're lucky, you can get up there!

Perpignan is the wind sensor on iWindsurf just south of Leucate. Actual wind on the water will certainly be quite a bit higher, but this station gives some indication of conditions.

The entire month of wind reports for June 2008, Perpignan (Leucate):
http://www.iwindsurf.com/windandwhere.iws?location_id=16231&archiveMonth=6&archiveYear=2008&archiveSearch=Go&Isection=Wind+Archive&regionID=2056

iWindsurf's coverage of the south of France is here:

France_Le Midi:
http://www.iwindsurf.com/windandwhere.iws?regionID=2037&is_beta=true
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madmax7



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: links for bay of roses Reply with quote

Hey Geohaye,

thanks for links to Leucate. Can you provide link to archives for June last year for the Bay of Roses?



I got my tickets to Barcelona, now need to plan trip, Bay of Roses is only 30 mins from Leucate.


thanks, Max

Ps looks like big sails, however area seems to have lots of sightseeing opportunities.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: links for bay of roses Reply with quote

madmax7 wrote:
Hey Geohaye,

thanks for links to Leucate. Can you provide link to archives for June last year for the Bay of Roses?



I got my tickets to Barcelona, now need to plan trip, Bay of Roses is only 30 mins from Leucate.


thanks, Max

Ps looks like big sails, however area seems to have lots of sightseeing opportunities.



I have never sailed at Roses, stupidly passing it by on my frequent trips to Tarifa. I was told it is great and there is a chance for decent wind year-round.

Windstats appear to be misleading, since many meters in the area seem to located in areas that are very protected from the prevailing wind.

This seems to be the authoritative stat:

http://www.windfinder.com/windstats/windstatistic_cabo_begur.htm


Rentals seem to be rare since it is a driving destination for most European sailors. Maybe try a spanish forum...

http://www.totalwind.net/foro/

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

max, feuser is right that many of these public wind sensors on iWindsurf's Spain and France maps are placed in less than optimal locations, usually by government authorities in the local counties. By looking at a few sensors, you can often see a pattern when the wind is good, but certainly you cannot know exactly what the wind is blowing from many of these numbers.

Still, some of them are purely excellent. It takes some time to learn which are really good.

That's why back home in North America, iWindsurf builds and installs their own wind sensors. Public wind data is often just OK or poor, so iWindsurf's premium ones (the ones in yellow on the USA/Canada/Mexico/DR maps) are usually the best ones to look at -- where available.
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madmax7



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Bay of Roses, Spain Reply with quote

hey Geohaye,

Thanks for input. The info you provided and Feuser has been helpful. I went on the Spanish forum and did a little research.

Though the wind has little chance of being 4 to 5.0 it does seem reliable for some wind. May even get lucky with some Tamarante winds and hit 4.0 winds.

A short trip to France, Leucate also offers some opportunities. Now I am trying to find an appealling "studio" type sleeping arrangements in some interesting community. The surroundings seem to have more appeal for no wind activities than Tarifa.

Max
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: moving this forward since going there next week Reply with quote

bound for spain...
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OleBCN



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: Roses / Port de la Selva / Cadaques Reply with quote

Hi.
I grew up in Barcelona and I spent the summers in Cadaques (10 miles north of Roses) my whole life.
In the summer, the best is to sail at Sant Pere Pescador with southern thermal winds.
If you are lucky, you may have some days of North (Tramuntana / Mistral), if so, you will probably have to go to Leucate (offshore) or Port de la Selva (onshore), as in the summer it rearely reaches the Gulf of Roses. However, if it does, you can sail in Sant Marti d'Empuries (in front of the Roman archeological site or in Pals (both wavesailing).

You can also sail in Cadaques (hometown of Salvador Dali). You can sail in the bay:

http://www.exchangezones.com/sites/wlm1/uploads/Cadaques1.jpg

or ouside of the bay.... my backyard.
This is just in front of my family's house:

http://totalwind.net/foro/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11320&p=84371&hilit=caials#p84371


The wind here is onshore, but there is plenty of boat traffic and you will be rescued if you break something.

in the summer, we sail 50 % of the days.
5.0 with Tramuntana
7.0 with Thermal Winds

I hope this helps.
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