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hammerton



Joined: 30 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no doubt that a kiteboarder holds the record for the fastest wind powered craft in the world. Is it it sailing? That is a difficult question to answer.

The Yachting community accepted the windsurfers as they have the same recognisable parts as a sailboat:
Hull, sail, mast, boom and fin for lateral resistance.
Kiters have none of this - it is a bit of a stretch to call a kite a sail. They get lateral resistance primarily from edging the board.

There are definately issues of pride and money. I am sure it stings a bit that althought millions have been spent on boats, the fastet guy did it with stuff you can buy off the shelf, stick on your back and go ride to the beach on a bycicle with!

Now I often say I am going "sailing", when I mean windsurfing, but I have NEVER heard a kiter say that!
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windoggie



Joined: 22 Feb 2002
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh my aching back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIJ1jZQcSSY&feature=related

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swchandler



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blireef, no worries. We're all having fun with the wind.
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wndsrfrmn



Joined: 30 Jun 2001
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One day kite speed will surpass a mile a minute at Emeryville Point (Opposite Berkeley by interstate 80)...

...when one of them hits a Mack truck after being dragged out of control over the frontage road and into the freeway.

Kiting looks like a lot of fun but I am sticking to sailing.
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broskis1



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now you are getting it. Kiting is fast and easy!
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goinoff



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: 47.366 knots by VESTAS SAILROCET Reply with quote

On the 3rd of December,2008 in Walvis Bay, Namibia VESTAS
SAILROCKET became the fastest 'boat' on the planet with a 500 meter
average of 47.366 knots. During the run in winds averaging only 22.6
knots, the amazing craft reached a peak of 52.22 knots.

Gotsta love that conehead helmet.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJK5ycx_hg

how long will it last???
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cbknap



Joined: 03 Jun 1997
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Backloop!

I like this quote from the guy: "If you're going to beat windsurfers you'd better act like windsurfers!"
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npure2001



Joined: 15 Mar 2003
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Location: Far East Bay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 47.366 knots by VESTAS SAILROCET Reply with quote

goinoff wrote:
On the 3rd of December,2008 in Walvis Bay, Namibia VESTAS
SAILROCKET became the fastest 'boat' on the planet with a 500 meter
average of 47.366 knots. During the run in winds averaging only 22.6
knots, the amazing craft reached a peak of 52.22 knots.

Gotsta love that conehead helmet.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJK5ycx_hg

how long will it last???


That thing seems incredibly unstable. With the huge stance, the massive torque at the joint can cause structural failure at any moment, it'll probably break up in relatively small chop no matter what. Didn't the YellowPages end up doing that as well? Idiotic looking helmet will probably cause his head to separate on an unfortunate landing.

I guess the moral of the story is that the smaller the board, the more controllable the setup. Is that why the kiter blew away the record almost out of the blue? Smaller fin(s), narrower wetted surface, less stuff to catch in chop? Seems like simple physics to me. I'll stick to my 78 liter board, then. Razz

Gabor
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goinoff



Joined: 01 Feb 1998
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 47.366 knots by VESTAS SAILROCET Reply with quote

npure2001 wrote:
goinoff wrote:
On the 3rd of December,2008 in Walvis Bay, Namibia VESTAS
SAILROCKET became the fastest 'boat' on the planet with a 500 meter
average of 47.366 knots. During the run in winds averaging only 22.6
knots, the amazing craft reached a peak of 52.22 knots.

Gotsta love that conehead helmet.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJK5ycx_hg

how long will it last???


That thing seems incredibly unstable. With the huge stance, the massive torque at the joint can cause structural failure at any moment, it'll probably break up in relatively small chop no matter what. Didn't the YellowPages end up doing that as well? Idiotic looking helmet will probably cause his head to separate on an unfortunate landing.

I guess the moral of the story is that the smaller the board, the more controllable the setup. Is that why the kiter blew away the record almost out of the blue? Smaller fin(s), narrower wetted surface, less stuff to catch in chop? Seems like simple physics to me. I'll stick to my 78 liter board, then. Razz

Gabor


It does look unstable..They've crashed hard numerous times in
the past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoaZu8Ew_a4
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JERRYKERR



Joined: 09 Aug 2001
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Gabor,

Do you think frozen water qualifies as sailing? If so we need to list a whole new class of sailing "vessels".

By the way....no wind at Bill's today but it's starting to blow at 5pm. Praying for a great Tuesday, Wednesday to finish out the trip.

Buenos Noches,
PAmuddog (via Jerry Kerr)
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