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derekd
Joined: 12 Mar 1994 Posts: 73
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Quatro 81 twin fin |
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the board is outrageous I love it, everything they say about it is true....here's the question. Comes with stock 165 MFC fins. Does it matter which one is on the right and which is on the left? they look identical to me. According to the MFC website for the TP Pro fins, it does make a difference there is a designated right and left fin, but these may not be the same as the stock fins supplied with the board.
Thanks in advance
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insh8bl
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 181 Location: San Francisco, CA & Coconut Cove, Maui HI
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, all the MFC twin fins I have seen on Quatro’s and in stores are labeled with a small red R or L. But I can’t remember whose left and right, that is, board right side up/upside down or looking at it from the front or back. My understanding is that if you put them in backwards the board feels unsalable. So, if it feels like it is working right I would say you also put them in right. Hope this helps. Twin fins sure are a hell of allot of fun in waves!
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LeeD
Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Usually, the flatter foil side is inside.
Been riding twin fins for surfboards since 1968, and still currently ride them and quads. Nothing accelerates out of turns like them.
If the foil is symetrical, then the difference could be toe in. Boards work better with the fins toe'd inwards.
The other variable is cant. Fins should be canted outwards.
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thus the proprietary toe-in, cant, and side-dependent foils -- and outstanding tracking in gnarly terrain -- of the four-finned Bonzer surf and WS boards.
Mike \m/
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LeeD
Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Geez, my 4 Bonzers where actually 2 of them 3 fins, and the other two 5 finned, if you wanted to be able to bottom turn on solid waves.
Most Les boards seem to have a center fin box, for whatever reason known to man.
And some needed at least 7.5" center fins too
Yes, I've owned at least 20 twin fin surfboards, at least 5 twin fin windsurf boards (Prodanovich, MistralSLE, KineticScottMcKersher), over 6 quad surfboards, but never a quad windsurfing board.
Seems very few windsurfers are actually good enough to appreciate the solid holdingpower, quicksnapaccelerating turning, general looseness, rail to rail ease of banking pressure, and shallow water riding abilities.
At my lighter weights, it was hard to find a 65 liter twin fin wave riding windsurf board till the last 2 seasons.
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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LeeD wrote: | Most Les boards seem to have a center fin box, for whatever reason known to man. And some needed at least 7.5" center fins too ... At my lighter weights, it was hard to find a 65 liter twin fin wave riding windsurf board till the last 2 seasons. |
Every one of Les's WS boards (Gorge Animal) has a center fin; his Bonzer fins are only a couple of inches long, never intended to replace a center fin. I run 8.5" to 9.5" slotted fin on mine. I've sailed 65-liter Bonzers scores of thousands of miles -- probably half of my WSing since they hit the market in the early '90s.
Mike \m/
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SWE106
Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 264 Location: San Mateo
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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derek,
stocked to hear you like the 81L quatro twinfin. So do I and ALL other twinfin owners. These boards are SICK, and RIP in any type of conditions!!!
To answer your question: I don't seem to find any difference in foil profile on either side of the L or R fin, they seem identical. However, and just in case, I follow the L and R lettering on the fins accordingly (see attached picture). The R fin is on the right side of the board, seen from the deck, and the L on the left side. I've had them accidentally reversed before, but haven't noticed any difference actually.
Note that as said by "LeeD" here, twinfins should cant/point outwards, which is what they seem to do a little more according to the settings I just described. Keep on ripping dude! I HIGHLY recommend these boards to anybody who sails waves, and considers himself to be a wavesailor; there is NOTHING better, single fins are OUT... The question has always been if twinfins have/had a future in the wavesailing scene. I and many other twinfin owners with me now seriously wonder if single fins have any future left at all.
Quads, trifin etc don't seem to work on a WSboard, because the smaller fins don't and can't support the higher speeds of WSboards compared to Sboards.
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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SWE106 wrote: | Quads, trifin etc don't seem to work on a WSboard |
Yeah, right ... and you've sailed HOW many scores of thousands of miles on them?
Mike \m/
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gerritt
Joined: 06 May 1998 Posts: 632 Location: Redwood City, CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Another very helpful post from isobars, who's karma is so bad that the God's have never seen fit to align a proper breaking wave with wind to allow him the joy of true down the line sailing.
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Great photo. However, what I note is the real forward nature of the fins relative to the rear footstrap. Maybe I'm just too old school with things.
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