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nealpar



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anybody seen Laird's movie: "All Aboard The Crazy Train"?
Supposedly he makes a comment about the 2006 incident of blocking the road to Jaws in that video. I'm curious what his take on it was.

Keycocker, I'm well aware that the road in the picture is the road for the spectators, and not the road for the launching of the jetskis. The comments about the picture were that the locals INTENTIONALLY destroyed the road to block access. Your understanding is that the cars were just innocently abandoned there? Sideways on a narrow road? On a road which is a major tourist attraction? Nah. Don't buy it.

Also, you misinterpret the postings on this forum. Most of us believe that the changes on Maui are about things much bigger than windsurfing. It's just that those changes are negatively impacting our windsurfing vacation options over there.
Boohoo. I know. Who gives a shit.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keycocker,

Again, you offer an another interesting post shedding some more light on the Maui situation, particularly with respect to the watersports schools scenario at the beach parks. It's good to hear your perspective.

If I have one hope for resolution concerning windsurfing's dilemma in Hawaii, it would be a more practical solution to the 200' rule now being considered. If it's proven that specific steps need to be taken to ensure the safety of all watersports participants, I would really wish that it is crafted in a way that doesn't unduly hurt windsurfers. However, with kiting in the mix, that will complicate the situation immensely, as the area that they need to practice their sport safely is magnitudes greater than other watersports, both on the beach and in the water. Unfortunately, I fear that the fates of windsurfing and kiting might be considered and tied together, despite vast differences between them.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't mean to imply nealpar didn't know that was the spectator road -Sorry. I was speaking to the crowd. That road has people on it maybe twice or three times a year, or not at all some years that Jaws doesn't go off.That is why they tow cars into that area to torch them. That shot is not the worst spot. That whole maze of roads is rarely used and jammed with wrecked or stolen cars all dragged in there, some turned over, not just the one to Jaws. Other junkyard trash litters the area like old fridges and water heaters. I nearly bought a place last year just down from that picture, so I took the time to cruise the area.
I would be amazed to see trash cars all dragged in and parked neatly along that nearly abandoned road. Maybe car thieves in other towns are neater than the ones in Maui.
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nealpar



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keycocker wrote:
Maybe car thieves in other towns are neater than the ones in Maui.


Car thieves??? Now they are thieves? I thought you said that the abandoned cars were ABANDONED due to the closing down of junkyards.

My impression is that Maui is just struggling with creating a workable compromise among a myriad of conflicting interests. The situation is challenging for the politicians because the changes that have taken place on the island over the last 5-7 years have been greater than in previous decades put together.

When legislators go to work, they examine how something has been dealt with in other jurisdictions. California's laws are a logical place to look to and use as a template. I can't help but think that the 200' rule was taken from our own Harbors and Navigation Code or possibly other states' with such issues. However, the "enforcement" might be entirely different. Here, in Cali, it's not enforced vigorously.

Anyway, I'm always interested in hearing the impression or opinion of those who are in the know, especially those who live on Maui. However, I sometimes get the feeling that Maui residents, especially the haolis (sp?) have learned to be reserved with their comments. Maui can become EXTREMELY SMALL WHEN YOU PISS OFF THE WRONG PEOPLE. I've heard that long time residents have literally been driven off the island and back to the mainland for angering some powerful local (I mean local) family. You can't hide from or avoid your enemies on Maui they way you can on the mainland. That HAS TO impact how you act and how assertive you are with your rights.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are absolutely right.
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