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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

generally speaking, and NOT to sound like I disagree with your observations, I think the years of manufacture will likely have some bearing
as will the initial maintenance in the 100k plus that you speak of, the older units of Toyota and Honda mini vans certainly had their share of problems, motor mount being but one for both

the Chrysler products too me fit like a pair of gloves, where the others seem awkward , out of place, in this arena the Chrysler/Dodges really are well engineered "overall " and do whats intended at a very reasonable cost .

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't the Voyager/Caravans still need a new tranny every 80,000 miles?
That would eliminate them by itself. Don't they also tend to overheat?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw one once that had over 90K on the clock , on its original tranny.

Most don't overheat so long as you maintain the coolant, and associated systems.

and change the oil from time to time

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stamarev



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zirtaeb wrote:
Don't the Voyager/Caravans still need a new tranny every 80,000 miles?
That would eliminate them by itself. Don't they also tend to overheat?

Actually, the same apply to Odyssey. All Odyssey owners I know replaced their transmissions.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:58 pm    Post subject: Dodge Grand Caravan Reply with quote

I have 195,000 miles on my 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan. Origninal Engine. Original transmission. Runs smooth. 22 mpg on the highway.
Stow & Go. 10'10" Angulo SUP/Sail fits inside.

Best vehicle for windsurfing I have ever owned. Having all those sliding doors and lifting back make accessing anything from any side a breeze. And being a windsurfer, I like a good breeze.

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ramps



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a mere 110K miles on my '02 Chry Town & Country AWD. Runs and drives perfect, 22 -23 mpg at 75mph on level ground. Of course I have been diligent about maintenance. I had to get the original tires replaced at 58K due to a large bolt puncturing one (have to replace AWD vehicle tires in sets) and it did not need an alignment at that time. Tires are wearing perfectly evenly even with 50K+ miles. I can stack 2 short boards flat on the floor with lots of room left, this is with 3 of 4 rear seats removed so I still have room for 2 passengers.
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carl



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stamarev wrote:
zirtaeb wrote:
Don't the Voyager/Caravans still need a new tranny every 80,000 miles?
That would eliminate them by itself. Don't they also tend to overheat?

Actually, the same apply to Odyssey. All Odyssey owners I know replaced their transmissions.


I had no tranny problems on either 1999 Caravan 115K
or 2000 Odyssey with 135K (still have this one).
I did add a tranny cooler to the Ody, maybe that's why it's still going on the origional tranny.

Not many other problems with Caravan.

Lots $$$ of other problems with Odyssey:
A/C compressor, 3 motor mounts, EGR tube clogged $$, brakes wear quickly, front struts.
Beware about the 105K service, it's a heart stopper $$$ (timing belt, tensioner, spark plugs and valve adjustment).
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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two major keys to milking astounding longevity out of any auto trans are changing all its fluid more often than advised and adding more cooling. The early Chevy TR400R AT (Astro van, among other Chevies) was notorious for disintegrating within 30K miles; one book salesman had to replace his every 7,000 miles.

Owners were told to avoid letting that tranny "hunt" back and forth between high (third) gear and overdrive, because that supposedly killed them quickly. OTOH, I added an extra, actual COOLER (most OEM "coolers" back then were actually heaters, as they were inside the radiator), changed the filter and ALL the fluid every 20K miles, and drove it in full "hunt" mode most of the time (i.e., as fast as it would go in OD, then lift my foot when it automatically downshifted, over and over and over a few times per minute for 14 years). The tranny still performed flawlessly when we gave it away at 246,000 miles and bought another Astro.

Keep it cool, keep it clean, and don't tow any significant loads, and most of them can last a long time.
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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kinda nice with the Chrysler motors, no timing belt
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Timing Chains Reply with quote

Yes! No timing belt.

Timing chains last and last and last.

By the way, I do change my oil more often than Lee D does. Wink
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