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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The local swap meets are littered with a wide variety of Open Oceans for a few hundred bucks a pop.

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Epenrose



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No kidding, who gives a crap.

Get rid of the sponsorship and concentrate on decent gear that lasts.

Look at the surf industry including SUP's, keeps re-inventing itself. Windsurf industry just ran itself into the ground. $700 sails, $1800 boards, $500 booms as standard.

Who cares about the pro's.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's up with Epenrose here? Did he have a bad night and now he wants to vent and share some of his cranky attitude?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His posting history should answer your question.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sideshore waves give you that down the line experience, but that kind of conditions are rare. Even places that have it only see those conditions for a modest part of the year. For instance Hookipa is side shore most sailable days but Kanaha is like that mostly in fall and winter when the winds often go light for days or weeks.
Europe and the Caribbean rarely see sideshore or side off. We sail on onshore waves, often wind driven. I would bet 90% of ocean wavesailing is done in onshore or side on. I travel the world to wavesail and rarely meet a side shore day with enough wind. On the days that you find them a lot of starved sailors are out there going for it. This makes for crowded waves which work against your ability to go down the line without running over someone. The fact that the upwave sailor has right of way stops making a big dif when there is a whole crowd just down the wave from you.
By the way everyone here knows that sideshore and onshore don't refer to the shoreline?
Sideshore means wind and waves at right angles so you are crossing them like road slow down bumps. In onshore conditions the waves and wind are behind you and turning into the wave means turning upwind and stalling.
In sideshore you ride up the face on a broad reach and turn downwind at the top (off the lip) then turn downwind again in the trough (bottom turn) and repeat this untill you run into someone or run out of wave. Because you are sailing downwind and uphill, this is hard to do in light air.Because you need the whole length of the wave to be clear it is tough in the crowded conditions that a honking sideshore day often brings.
Sideshore means BIG jumps until you learn to speed across a tall wave face without auto launching and slamming into the next wave. My first big sideshore day landed me in the hospital when I ate the boom on the "landing"
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