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mkrasnoff



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:50 am    Post subject: COMMERICAL FISHING OFF THE MALIBU COAST Reply with quote

What's with the commercial fishing boats dragging nets right off the coast?
We used to see that many years ago but it's been a while I guess.

I saw them last week north of Zuma and tonight on the way home, since it was dark, it was an eerie sight. Six boats, a few large, the rest small, almost in a circle, had very bright flood lights on. It looked like something out of Close Encounters. I'm assuming they are dragging nets and hauling in all types of sea life whether they want to or not.

I'm not a tree hugger but I care about my environment and would be bummed to find out they are killing dolphins. On the other hand, I like eating fish so I guess I'm part of the problem.

Anyone with input on what they are doing out there and is it as uncool as it looks?

Aloha.
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D-wo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are fishing for squid. One boat herds the squid with the bright lights while two others trap them in a net. Or at least something like that. They used to do it off the coast in front of my house too. Sometimes I didn't even need my lights at night.
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potto



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every year around Nov, the squid boats come out. Anything in its path gets picked up. I'm not against commercial squid boat,s other than their methods. They leave almost nothing behind and any white sea bass, and/or any other fish, they pretty much kill in the nets, then they send it back to the ocean.

Here is a pic of a Squid boat in the background early Sun morning at Leo.

Another thing about Leo. Too much kelp. The surfers would get tangled and fall off. It was like watching a bunch of beginners.

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blireef



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: squid Reply with quote

The squid are drawn to the surface by the light boats, then the other boats seine them. There is very little bycatch..ie:white sea bass or any other pelagic fish. Everytime you see a boat fishing doesn't mean they are wiping out the ocean. The answer to conservation is management and they are managing the fisheries on the pacific coast and in Alaska very conservativly. They only allow fishing on a stock when there is a harvestable surplus.. Just wanted to throw the facts in this discussion.
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blireef



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: squid Reply with quote

The squid are drawn to the surface by the light boats, then the other boats seine them. There is very little bycatch..ie:white sea bass or any other pelagic fish. Everytime you see a boat fishing doesn't mean they are wiping out the ocean. The answer to conservation is management and they are managing the fisheries on the pacific coast and in Alaska very conservativly. They only allow fishing on a stock when there is a harvestable surplus.. Just wanted to throw the facts in this discussion.
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potto



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: squid Reply with quote

blireef wrote:
Everytime you see a boat fishing doesn't mean they are wiping out the ocean.


True, but when they use a net, you can say they are wiping the area clean.
We shouldn't worry about WSB being caught because the squid are taken before they can get a wiff of it.

Gill net, trawlers and long lines are not methods of conserving IMO, but you may think different. Commercial fish numbers are down, so they are asking for long lines to be introduced. When is 'enough' "enough"?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right about trawls especially bottom trawls they are extremely destructive to habitat, some gill netting is well regulated with very little bycatch. What they are doing though is seining which is the cleanest type of commercial fishing. BTW they may be fishing sardines.. Any unregulated fishing is bad, but the california fisheries are well regulated.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right about trawls especially bottom trawls they are extremely destructive to habitat, some gill netting is well regulated with very little bycatch. What they are doing though is seining which is the cleanest type of commercial fishing. BTW they may be fishing sardines.. Any unregulated fishing is bad, but the california fisheries are well regulated.
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