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WS & Mtn Bike in Santa Barbara Thanksgiving week

 
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tcevans



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: WS & Mtn Bike in Santa Barbara Thanksgiving week Reply with quote

My wife, dog & I are heading down to Santa Barbara from the Bay Area for Thanksgiving week, staying in Santa Maria & Santa Barbara a couple of nights each.

What's the WS like this time of year? Should I bring my boards (JP FSW 84 & Exocet Cross 117)? I'm an advanced sailor, but still a beginner in the waves, which I want to work on. If it's good where to go?

Also what's the mtn biking like, should we bring ours?

Thanks,
Tom
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jpbassking



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forecast is for NE winds which don't work too well around here. If that doesn't happen and it stays foggy on the coast then check out Lopez lake while you are in Santa Maria. It is about 45 minutes north of there - exit In Arroyo Grande and go thru town then follow the signs. There is also moutain biking near Santa Barbara on the Camusa Rd back by Paradise camp but keep in mind this is used by ATV's and dirt bikes as well.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom,

With NE winds forecast, Port Hueneme can be quite windy in the morning, but the wind direction is nearly direct offshore. The angle has some side in it, so that it's not unreasonable. Typically, you can stay tight and set up nice smoking runs up and down the beach to the power plant and back.

Also, C Street in Ventura (adjacent to Ventura County Fairgrounds and the Derby Club) can often happen in the afternoon on NE wind days when the wind switches to a westerly thermal type wind. A really plus if there's a swell hitting.

Santa Barbara doesn't work very well with NE winds, and it doesn't pick up the afternoon westerly thermal that well as C Street.

Frankly, I doubt seriously whether Lopez will happen. It's a summer thermal scene normally where the wind direction is typically SW. Also, the projected Santa Ana wind (NE) is forecasted to be colder type event, and not the hotter type that ravaged southern California some weeks ago, so if some thermal action could possibly occur in the afternoon, it would be marginal.
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mkrasnoff



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
With NE winds forecast, Port Hueneme can be quite windy in the morning, but the wind direction is nearly direct offshore. The angle has some side in it, so that it's not unreasonable. Typically, you can stay tight and set up nice smoking runs up and down the beach to the power plant and back.


SWC - Can you share some more details on sailing Hueneme? I've never tried this spot but am willing to give it a go at least once. To me, sailing offshores at the coastal spots seemed more like a Pineapple express if you break a mast and you'd have to start singing the Gilligan's Isle theme song while trying to paddle in. Smile

The forecast for Thursday AM according to the lastest NWS post is THU...NE WINDS 15 TO 20 KT DIMINISHING TO 10 KT IN THE AFTERNOON. WIND WAVES 2 TO 3 FT IN THE MORNING...BECOMING 2 FT OR LESS. W SWELL 3 TO 5 FT.
My wife will probably kill me for going out prior to Thanksgiving travels, but I like living close to the edge. Heck, if I break my mast I won't have to deal with her yelling later on anyway Laughing

Where do you launch from?
How safe is your car parked there? (Oxnard Gangs home Turf) Do you need to strip out the car before going or coat it with mud?
Do you think the forecast is favorable for Thursday AM?
What's your best indicator for wind at this spot. NWS reading at Oxnard or Mugu?

Thanks,
Mitch
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sail-n-ski



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might want to do some looking aroung in these forums (if you have not already) for some input on central cali rides. http://forums.mtbr.com/
Looks like there's some riding on Cabrillo Peaks trails in Morro Bay. Sailing is a long shot but you'll be in a beautiful part of the state so have some fun.
Greg
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STEIN



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santa Barbara has some epic Mtn Biking, from Camino cielo down to montecito is a great ride. Also off of paradise road from San Marcos pass has plenty of rides. Check a local bike shop for maps. You'll love it!
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mitch,

Sounds like a fairly light forecast NE wind, but still doable. It wise to rig on the big side and use a slalom board when its lighter, because it can tend to be light in spots close to shore, especially where you launch. To get the best indicator on wind speeds, often the Weather Channel includes Port Hueneme as part of their summary of conditions offered every 8 minutes. If it's missing in the report, Oxnard is the next best alternative. Also, PH and Leo can often be very close in wind speeds, so that's another indicator of sorts.

If you're coming up hwy 1, I would recommend getting off a Pleasant Valley Rd and take that west toward Port Hueneme. You turn left at I think Ventura Ave (there's a Taco Bell on the corner) and take that straight to the beach, where you again turn left going towards the pier. I go to the parking lot to the east of the parking lot right at the pier, and that's where the memorial is to honoring those that went down in a commercial jet airliner a number of years ago.

It's pay parking, and they do regularly enforce the policy. I've never worried much about thief or vandalism there, as there are large condominiums that are just across the street and many folks do walk about. There is a nice lawn to rig on right in front of your car.

To launch, it's best to walk to the east as you move to the shoreline, since it's best to get out of the wind shadow of the condo complexes.

If there is any sizable surf, it can be quite tricky getting out, especially since it's a port tack launch and you have to move down the beach to get outside the surfline. If you break a mast, that's where it will be. Also, the wind can be somewhat up and down in close. Once out, it's best to stay close to the wind and attempt to hang as tight as you can to the shoreline. By the time you get down around the power plant, you can be out a distance, but by pinching to windward for a number of runs you can ultimately pull in closer to the beach.

It's always a bit up and down in sections, but if it starts to really lighten up, I'd recommend not trying to press your luck too much. The place can shut off quite quickly, and you don't want to be way down by the power plant when it does. Also, the wind can rather quickly change direction to a westerly, so it's wise to keep an eye on many of the flags around to the west.

Well, that's about it. Except, I would ensure that your universal is in real good shape.
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mkrasnoff



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SWC - Thanks for the info on Hueneme. Sounds like a bit of a challenge your first time out and good for when you're really wind starved. I haven't sailed in 10 days and I'm going through serious withdrawals, but I think I can hang in till the next clearing wind. I checked the Google satellite image and I can see the parking area and the pier so I think you've got me dialed in. The latest NWS forecast is down a notch for Thursday AM so I may opt to wait for the next time.

Thanks again
Mitch
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