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jam-1



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madspaniard is correct--the US box gives you forward/aft adjustment that affects the looseness of the board.

Large fins negate the maneuverability of a waveboard--I'm not sure a large fin would work well in surf. If early planing is your goal, you might be better off riding a freeride or freestyle wave board with a flatter rocker. I believe more of those models come with a powerbox.
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Epenrose



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spoke to John at Isthmus Sailboards yesterday.

Easy to forget how civil and cool the guys are in the mid west. Couldn't have been more helpful or have better advice.

Exocet has two full on wave boards over 100L, will post results later. again don't want anything unless full wave, no crossover.
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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.boards.co.uk/equipment/boardsearch.asp?ID1=3016

Exo Wave in 105L or 95L

no tests that I have seen, on Wave Exocet.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

go4it wrote:
f2andme wrote:
Tabou 3S, either 97 or 107L, probably in




I have been thinking of the 3S 107 for my next board. Has anyone sailed one or heard of any reviews on them..


I have the 97L 3S, have NOT seen anyone on the 107 or seen any tests.

The 3S does "most" things well, some exceptional, only real wish is that I would have gotten the 87L instead, course this only applys since I cant afford to eat anymore
and have lost weight !

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loopless



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear the RRD fell apart. I have had a wide selection of RRD wave boards and they all have been rock solid - I sold most of my old boards to my buddies and the ones still around are in great shape despite being dragged across the rocks in Carlos repeatedly.

I am not saying RRD is the best choice, but I know the boards and have sailed them a lot and they serve as a good example of the types of choices.

As an example of the distinct choices RRD gives you in large wave boards ( I can comment since I own both a Wave Cult and FSW).
You can have the Wave Cult 90+L with US fin box and a max sail size of say 6.0m2, or you can go for Free Style Wave, 102L/109L with power box, 7.0+sails, and flatter rocker. If you look at the specs the Wave Cult is really short. Depends on what is important to you. The FSW RRD's can hold big sails , and plane off in light winds while being not bad to wave ride. The Wave Cults can' t hold the big sails, and do not plane off as well, but are rippable on waves. The Wave cult probably suits the heavy wave rider with good winds, more than FSW which works great in light winds.
One friend of mine has a large 120L? Sumo - he likes it a lot.

Just my $0.02
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U2U2U2



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epenrose wrote:
I spoke to John at Isthmus Sailboards yesterday.



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MOTOP



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go4it wrote:

I have been thinking of the 3S 107 for my next board. Has anyone sailed one or heard of any reviews on them..


Berkeley Boardsports had 3S 107 for demo. Ben said that having sailed both 97 and 107 versions, 107 was clearly not the best board of the range. It didn't perform as well as the smaller 3Ss. Something about uncommunicative looseness and weird float distribution. All this was said in the context of chosing a good all-around bay board for a heavy guy.
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DonORiordan



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another good reason for US box is that if you hit something (quite a common occurrence when wavesailing), the fin breaks out of the box without destroyig the box. Sometimes, all that gets lost is the nut + screw holding in the fin, and the fin remains hanging in the fin box on the little pivot thingy....happened to me recently in Sprecks/Maui, when I hit the reef or a turtle or something at low tide....The fin remained loosely in the box and I wa s able to nurse myself back to shore on a semi-plane...

Replaced the fin screw, and I was back out there...

With a powerbox, hit the reef and the fin will get smashed up for sure, maybe the finbox also, leading to expensive repairs and time off the water.

As for wanting to sail on a bigger fin, my advise would be go learn how to sail on a small one. It takes some time and commitment, but it can be done. You may have to adjust your stance somewhat, don't push against the fin so much. A good practice is to try and sail fin-first i.e. you stand on the nose, or just remove your fin and go play around in the shorebreak. Try to sail out thru it without any fin at all, as an exercise. That'll teach you quick.

Best to sail on the smallest fin you can get away with, the board will be looser and more manoevreable that way also.

For staying upwind, you'll have to learn to sail with most of the windward rail in the water to provide you some lateral resistance. Again, it'll probably come automatically after a few days of practice.

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lizardhill



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: NSM Reply with quote

If you are willing to look into the used market I don't think you can do better than the North Shore Maui wave boards of about four or five years ago. I have the 270 wave (105 ltr) and know several others who have the same board in other sizes. Everyone who owns one cherishes it and I always see them kept in great shape. Sandy Point Sports (Aerotech) had quite a few when I bought mine from them. I weigh 260 and sail this board with 5.2 to 7.2 at ,Chrissy, Rio, Leo Carillo and the Gorge and will keep it until it falls to shreds ( or I do ).US box BTW.
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Tabou3S107



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Tabou3s107 Reply with quote

I,ve picked up a 3s 107 just for light wind wave riding,, The board works great in the surf but as a cross-over board it sucks for speed,,the fin it came with is trash,,I went with a thicker,fatter fin and when pushed hard it still breaks lose but on a wave the board smokes,,kicks ass,,no problems,,I,m 210lbs and need a LWWB for Jalama
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