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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
Speaking of lies..............

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Durham Cracks the Russia Case
The special counsel’s indictment tells the real story of 2016 collusion.
By The Editorial Board WSJ
Updated Sept. 18, 2021 10:09 am ET

John Durham on Thursday indicted a Clinton campaign lawyer from 2016 for lying to the FBI, but this is no ho-hum case of deception. The special counsel’s 27-page indictment is full of new, and damning, details that underscore how the Russia collusion tale was concocted and peddled by the Clinton campaign.

Mr. Durham charged Michael Sussmann, an attorney at the Perkins Coie law firm that represented the Clinton campaign. Mr. Sussmann is accused of making false statements to then-FBI general counsel James Baker in a Sept. 19, 2016 meeting when he presented documents purporting to show secret internet communications between the Trump Organization and Russia-based Alfa bank.

The indictment says Mr. Sussmann assured Mr. Baker he was not doing this work “‘for any client,’ which led the FBI General Counsel to understand that SUSSMANN was acting as a good citizen merely passing along information, not as a paid advocate or political operative.” This was false, says the indictment, which documents how Mr. Sussmann was working with other Democrats (including fellow Perkins Coie lawyer Marc Elias ) and billing his time to the Clinton campaign.

Mr. Sussmann’s lie “deprived the FBI” of crucial information, says the indictment, and led the agency to initiate an investigation into the Trump-Alfa claim, which was quickly leaked to the media. Mr. Sussmann didn’t lie to the FBI to protect himself. He is accused of lying to the FBI to trigger an investigation into a rival campaign based on a false claim of Russia-Trump collusion. He has pleaded not guilty.


Hey 900 club idiot, Not one indictment against a Obama administration official who was president at the time.

Trump said he and his people never talked to the russians, well we found out not only did they he did and many of them that were top people were convicted when the investigation was run by a life long republican. Imagine if that investigation was done by a partisan liberal , as partisan as Durham. Trump would have been indited. Mueller never even investigated the money laundering and banks involved with Russia. Again Mueller did not make trump and his family members be deposed. We know that trump top guy had a secret meeting with a russian and provided campaign confidential information to a russian.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Trump Campaign Knew Lawyers’ Voting Machine Claims Were Baseless, Memo Shows


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Two weeks after the 2020 election, a team of lawyers closely allied with Donald J. Trump held a widely watched news conference at the Republican Party’s headquarters in Washington. At the event, they laid out a bizarre conspiracy theory claiming that a voting machine company had worked with an election software firm, the financier George Soros and Venezuela to steal the presidential contest from Mr. Trump.

But there was a problem for the Trump team, according to court documents released on Monday evening.

By the time the news conference occurred on Nov. 19, Mr. Trump’s campaign had already prepared an internal memo on many of the outlandish claims about the company, Dominion Voting Systems, and the separate software company, Smartmatic. The memo had determined that those allegations were untrue.

The court papers, which were initially filed late last week as a motion in a defamation lawsuit brought against the campaign and others by a former Dominion employee, Eric Coomer, contain evidence that officials in the Trump campaign were aware early on that many of the claims against the companies were baseless.

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The documents also suggest that the campaign sat on its findings about Dominion even as Sidney Powell and other lawyers attacked the company in the conservative media and ultimately filed four federal lawsuits accusing it of a vast conspiracy to rig the election against Mr. Trump.

According to emails contained in the documents, Zach Parkinson, then the campaign’s deputy director of communications, reached out to subordinates on Nov. 13 asking them to “substantiate or debunk” several matters concerning Dominion. The next day, the emails show, Mr. Parkinson received a copy of a memo cobbled together by his staff from what largely appear to be news articles and public fact-checking services.

Even though the memo was hastily assembled, it rebutted a series of allegations that Ms. Powell and others were making in public. It found:

That Dominion did not use voting technology from the software company, Smartmatic, in the 2020 election.

That Dominion had no direct ties to Venezuela or to Mr. Soros.

And that there was no evidence that Dominion’s leadership had connections to left-wing “antifa” activists, as Ms. Powell and others had claimed.

As Mr. Coomer’s lawyers wrote in their motion in the defamation suit, “The memo produced by the Trump campaign shows that, at least internally, the Trump campaign found there was no evidence to support the conspiracy theories regarding Dominion” and Mr. Coomer.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excerpt from interview with Carly Fiorina. She's not my cup of tea but at least she has her head screwed on straight!

"Our democracy cannot function if you have a president claiming that the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged. That's what President Trump said over and over and over again in 2020. You cannot have a functioning democracy if a president, once he loses, continues to say that the election was stolen. You cannot have a functioning democracy if elected officials of one of our two Republican parties--two political parties goes along with that lie, the election was stolen. We must have--in order to have a functioning democracy, we must have both political parties accept the legitimacy of elections, especially when those elections have been described as free and fair and legitimate by observers on both sides. If we cannot accept the legitimacy of elections and we cannot have a peaceful transfer of power, we do not accept the legitimacy of those who were elected, we don't accept that elections have consequences, and therefore, we cannot have a debate about how to achieve our constitutional principles and ideals.
So, this is a big deal, not just for politics, not just for the Republican Party. It's a big deal for us as citizens and for our republic."
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Big Lie continues.

We'll see how many Republicans hold Bannon in contempt or maybe they just are too afraid of Loser 45.

As a side I saw a young man coming back to port in his boat with a Trump 2020 flag flying from the stern.

I road my bike up to the inlet and said "Newflash, Trump lost the election".

He said "yeah, right buddy!"

Facts are facts, they're not open for debate! Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No real surprise on the House vote to hold Bannon in contempt!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adding to the Big Lie was yet another lie from Loser 45 on Jan. 6th as he told the crowd "And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down."

He was nowhere to be found. Didn't walk. Didn't act, didn't do shite except watch it all unfold on his TV in the Oval Orafice.

Lying Loser 45!!!

Even Cowboys for Trump disavowed him!
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