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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be interesting to watch and see how vulnerable Fox, Newsmax, and Rudy and his crew of crazies are to these lawsuits. While you may be free to spout an opinion about what should be done, it is another matter when you systematically lie in a manner to damage someone's business--much less try to overthrow the legitimate government. I'm not a big fan of Mike Pence--but chanting hang him is way too far.

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The question from there is how legally problematic the claims were. Defamation litigation is intensive and requires meeting certain thresholds. Those who made such claims themselves, for instance, could face more jeopardy than those who provided a forum for them to do so. Some claims involved citing others who made allegations or simply raised the theories as questions, while others more forcefully and definitively alleged nefarious activity. Dobbs arguably erred more toward actually embracing the theories than his fellow Fox hosts, for example.

Given the sheer volume of claims — many of which are detailed in Smartmatic’s lawsuit — I thought it was worth looking at some of the biggest and most consequential that could be at issue in the coming litigation.

Below are a few of them, virtually none of which have been substantiated in courts. Most of them have been debunked by fact checks. And many of them will be parsed extensively in the lawsuits.

What Rudy Giuliani has said
“They were founded as a company to fix elections. They have a terrible record and they are extremely hackable.” (Nov. 13, Fox Business)

“They [committed fraud] absolutely in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Republicans were shut out from enough of the county so they could accomplish what Smartmatic wanted to do. And what you — that pattern that they have there, we have evidence that that’s the same pattern Smartmatic used in other elections in which they were disqualified. In other words, this is their pattern of activity.” (Nov. 15, Fox News — Maria Bartiromo’s show)

“It’s Smartmatic, which is a company that was founded in 2005 in Venezuela for the specific purpose of fixing elections. That’s their expertise: how to fix elections.” (Nov. 18, Fox Business — Lou Dobbs’s show)

On Smartmatic (Nov. 15, Fox News — Bartiromo’s show):

BARTIROMO: One source says that the key point to understand is that the Smartmatic system has a back door … that allows the votes to be mirrored and monitored, allowing an intervening party a real-time understanding of how many votes will be needed to gain an electoral advantage. Are you saying the states that use that software did that?
GIULIANI: I can prove that they did it in Michigan. I can prove it with witnesses. We are investigating the rest. ... Now, they didn’t do it everywhere. They did it in big cities where they have corrupt machines that will protect them.
“They were being notified by Smartmatic in Frankfurt, [Germany], that Biden was way behind and they better come up with a lot more ballots.” (Nov. 19, Fox News — Sean Hannity’s show)

What Sidney Powell has said
“It’s the Smartmatic and Dominion systems that were built to do this very thing, for changing the results of elections.” (Nov. 16, Mark Levin’s radio show)

“And President Trump won by not just hundreds of thousands of votes, but by millions of votes — that were shifted by this software that was designed expressly for that purpose. We have sworn witness testimony of why the software was designed. It was designed to rig elections. … It was exported internationally for profit by the people that are behind Smartmatic and Dominion. They did this on purpose. It was calculated. They have done it before.” (Nov. 15, Fox News — Bartiromo’s show)

“We’ve detected voting irregularities that are inexplicable and aligned with these problems in other states that think they have valid systems, but the people who bought the Dominion system for sure knew exactly what they were getting.” (Nov. 15, Fox News — Bartiromo’s show)

We now have reams and reams of actual documents from Smartmatic and Dominion, including evidence that they planned and executed all of this. … We have evidence of how they flip the votes, how it was designed to flip the votes.” (Dec. 10, Fox Business — Dobbs’s show)

“The software itself was created with so many variables and so many back doors that can be hooked up to the Internet or a thumb drive stuck in it or whatever. But one of its most characteristic features is its ability to flip votes. It can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President Biden. … And that’s what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in.” (Nov. 18, Fox Business — Dobbs’s show)

“People can admittedly go in and change whatever they want. They can set the ratio of votes from one thing to another. They can say that a Biden vote counts as 1.25, and a Trump vote counts as 0.75, and those may be the numbers that were actually used here. It’s not just the swing states that were affected; the algorithm was likely run across the country to affect the entire election.” (Nov. 19 news conference at the RNC)

“We’re talking about the alteration and changes and millions of votes, some being dumped that were for President Trump, some being flipped that were for President Trump, computers being overwritten to ignore signatures — all kinds of different means of manipulating the Dominion and Smartmatic software, that, of course, we would not expect Dominion or Smartmatic to admit.” (Nov. 14, Fox News — Jeanine Pirro’s show)

What Lou Dobbs has said
I am alarmed because of what is occurring in plain sight during this 2020 election for president of the United States. The circumstances and events are eerily reminiscent of what happened with Smartmatic software electronically changing votes in the 2013 presidential election in Venezuela.” (Nov. 18, Fox Business)

“And this president is demonstrating, once again, he is the wrong guy to cross — the wrong guy to think you can overthrow, upend and somehow stop with a vicious campaign, whether it’s verbal, whether its physical, whether it is what we have seen here: a cyberattack on our election, those voting machines and software.” (Nov. 21, Fox News — “Watters World”)

What Maria Bartiromo has said
“Well, I mean, who’s to stop this from happening again? I mean, if you’ve got Democrats in charge from here on out, they’re in charge of the machines, you’ll never see a Republican in the White House again.” (Nov. 17, Fox Business)

“Look, I want to show this graphic of the swing states that were using Dominion and this software, the Smartmatic software. … The voting machines were used, Dominion voting machines were used in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And I have a graphic showing the states where they stopped counting, which I thought was also strange — to stop counting in the middle of election night.” (Nov. 15, Fox News)

What Jeanine Pirro has said
“The president’s lawyers [are] alleging a company called Dominion, which they say started in Venezuela with Cuban money and with the assistance of Smartmatic software, a back door is capable of flipping votes. And the president’s lawyers alleging that American votes in a presidential election are actually counted in a foreign country. These are serious allegations, but the media has no interest in any of this. But you and I do, as we should, because 73 million Americans voted for Donald Trump.” (Nov. 21, Fox News)

What One America News has said
“Election systems across the country are found to have deleted millions of votes cast for President Trump. According to an unaudited analysis of data obtained from Edison Research, states using Dominion Voting Systems may have switched as many as 435,000 votes from President Trump to Joe Biden, and the author also finds another 2.7 million Trump votes appear to have been deleted by Dominion, including almost 1 million truckloads in Pennsylvania alone.” (Lilia Fifield, Nov. 12)

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“In the early 2000s, the election technology market had over 20 competitors. Twenty years later, Dominion and two others dominated the voting technology market in America. This is a problem — especially if their antifa-drenched engineers are hellbent on deleting half of America’s voice.” (Chanel Rion, Nov. 21)

“But Dominion captured headlines when it was discovered it had ‘glitched’ 6,000 votes, giving Biden a fraudulent win. This was a not an isolated event.” (Rion)

What Mike Lindell has said
“I want Dominion to put up their lawsuit, because we have 100 percent evidence that China and other countries used their machines to steal the election.” (Jan. 1Cool

“The biggest fraud is the Dominion machines.” (Dec. 22, Newsmax show hosted by Sebastian Gorka, who cut Lindell off)

“Biden got, like, 1.2 votes for every vote, and our president got, like, 0.66, okay? When that happened, all of us voting — it was probably 80 million votes who came in for our great president — and because of you, guess what? They all broke the algorithms and the machines, so there wasn’t enough time, … so they had to quick-stop everything, because he would’ve won the election in spite of the fraud.” (Dec. 12 speech in Washington)


Fair and balanced? They broadcast bullshit conspiracy nonsense without fact checking. And the deplorables lap it up.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lawyer-who-brought-election-suit-referred-for-possible-discipline/ar-BB1dQfPU?ocid=msedgntp


Lawyer who brought election suit referred for possible discipline


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Former U.S. attorney general calls North Carolina “ground zero” for partisan and…

A federal judge in Washington on Friday formally referred a Minnesota lawyer for potential discipline over a lawsuit filed in December seeking to overturn President Joe Biden’s wins in at least five battleground states.

a group of people sitting at a table: Polling workers inspect and count absentee ballots in New York on Nov. 10, 2020.© John Minchillo/AP Photo Polling workers inspect and count absentee ballots in New York on Nov. 10, 2020.
U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg said the suit was so flimsy and legally flawed that it could merit the attorney who filed it, Erick Kaardal of Minneapolis, facing some sort of punishment from the court.


“The relief requested in this lawsuit is staggering: to invalidate the election and prevent the electoral votes from being counted. When any counsel seeks to target processes at the heart of our democracy, the Committee may well conclude that they are required to act with far more diligence and good faith than existed here,” wrote Boasberg, an appointee of President Barack Obama.

Boasberg said Kaardal’s explanations for his actions were inadequate, so a referral to a court attorney-conduct panel was warranted.

“As he has not sufficiently allayed the Court’s concerns regarding potential bad faith, it will refer the matter to the Committee via separate letter so that it may determine whether discipline is appropriate,” the judge said.

The suit, Wisconsin Voters Alliance v. Pence, alleged that the election procedures in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were unconstitutional because legislatures did not have the final say in certifying the victor in those states and in appointing presidential electors.

Boasberg said the case suffered from “numerous shortcomings,” including a protracted recitation of fraud allegations while disclaiming any intention to challenge that same fraud.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ted.com/talks/amber_mcreynolds_an_election_system_that_puts_voters_not_politicians_first?utm_source=recommendation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=explore&utm_term=newest-talks-1

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From hours-long lines and limited polling locations to confusing and discriminatory registration policies, why is it so hard to vote in the US? Voting rights expert Amber McReynolds offers a proven alternative: a new process, already happening in parts of the country, that could bring accountability, transparency and equity to the outdated and sputtering system that American democracy currently relies on.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you right wingers are deplorables....

IE making it illegal to give a person in a vote line for 8 hours a water or any snack is just in-human that you deplorables really are. you are sick...

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/republicans-indifferent-to-unpopularity-of-new-voter-suppression-agenda-109114437693?cid=eml_mra_20210330


Republicans indifferent to unpopularity of new voter suppression agenda


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Rachel Maddow looks at the unpopularity of elements of the new Republican voting laws with Georgia voters, but points out that Republicans needn't concern themselves with what is popular with voters when they're giving themselves the power to overturn election results.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/georgia-gop-gives-itself-the-power-trump-wanted-to-overturn-elections-they-don-t-like-109113925788?cid=eml_mra_20210330


Georgia GOP gives itself the power Trump wanted: to overturn elections they don't like

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

white lies matter...

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-giuliani-lies-are-basis-of-new-georgia-voting-law-republican-lt-governor-admits-109832261964?cid=eml_mra_20210408&user_email=e73377d3e40790eecbf6a99203e1476ea2a23c644c2045abd739b8f9e629a73b

Trump, Giuliani lies are basis of new Georgia voting law, Republican lt. governor admits


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Rachel Maddow shares a clip of Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan, a Republican, stating that the impetus for the new Georgia voting restrictions is the set of lies spread by Donald Trump and particularly Rudy Giuliani that the election was flawed.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably a right wing hero.... as we are finding out the major vote fraud and costing dems seats are by right wingers...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/search-warrant-former-florida-state-senator-had-paperwork-for-no-party-candidate-in-second-miami-state-senate-race/ar-BB1fs8cQ?ocid=msedgntp


Search warrant: Former Florida state senator had paperwork for no-party candidate in second Miami state Senate race


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MIAMI — Former Republican state Sen. Frank Artiles was in possession of campaign documents of two spoiler no-party candidates who ran in separate, competitive Miami-Dade state Senate races in 2020, according to a 38-page search warrant obtained Thursday by the Miami Herald.

a man sitting on a bench in front of a building: Frank Artiles in Palmetto Bay, Fla., on March 17, 2021.© Pedro Portal, TNS/The Daytona Beach News-Journal/TNS Frank Artiles in Palmetto Bay, Fla., on March 17, 2021.
Artiles, 47, is facing multiple felony campaign finance related charges in connection with recruiting and paying an alleged spoiler candidate with the goal of swaying the outcome of Miami-Dade’s Senate District 37 race.


One other Miami-Dade state Senate race also featured a spoiler candidate — Celso Alfonso — who ran in the contentious District 39 race that pitted two state House members against one another to replace term-limited Republican Anitere Flores.

The search warrant’s inventory, which included a long list of electronics, financial documents and handwritten notes, showed that Artiles had kept a manila folder containing campaign documents related to Alfonso. He also had a folder related to no-party candidate Alexis "Alex" Rodriguez in Senate District 37. Rodriguez is facing similar campaign finance charges.

The 2020 election cycle drew three mysterious no-party candidates in contentious and expensive Senate races — Districts 37 and 39 in Miami-Dade and District 9 in Central Florida — all won by Republicans. The candidates did no independent campaigning, had little to no public profiles, and their candidacies were all bolstered by similarly designed political mail advertisements that were paid for by $550,000 in untraceable funds.

Alfonso’s candidacy shared similarities to Rodriguez’s:

—Both candidates’ email addresses were Gmail accounts with identical patterns: first initial, last name, district number and “2020.”

—They also had identical campaign finance records, both only reporting $2,000 loans to themselves, and using the money to pay for the $1,187.88 filing fee required of no-party candidates for state Senate.

—Both Rodriguez and Alfonso were registered Republicans when they voted in the 2018 midterm elections.


—Both Rodriguez and Alfonso qualified for the 2020 election on the same day, with checks hand-delivered in Tallahassee and time-stamped within minutes of one another.

A third no-party candidate also benefited from the mailers — Jestine Ianotti — who ran in District 9.

While probing the case, investigators said they found Artiles flew to Tallahassee to hand-deliver Rodriguez’s check and paperwork at the Florida Division of Elections.

Alfonso has not been named or charged in the investigation into Artiles and Alex Rodriguez. The Herald could not determine whether Alfonso is also under investigation. Alfonso received 3,639 votes out of 222,330 votes cast in the District 39 race, which Republican Sen. Ana Maria Rodriguez won with 55% of the vote.

Ana Maria Rodriguez said Thursday at the Capitol in Tallahassee that Artiles’ being in possession of Alfonso’s treasurer report “is all very shocking to me.”

“I don’t know the candidate. I don’t really talk to Frank, so I don’t know anything about this,” she said. “This is all very interesting how the developments are shaping along.”

She added that state investigators have not reached out to her.

Alex Rodriguez, on the other hand, has been charged with multiple felonies. One charge, filed Thursday, alleges he lied about his address on official campaign and voter registration documents. An additional felony charge was also filed against Artiles on Thursday.

Rodriguez, who shares a surname with losing Democrat incumbent José Javier Rodríguez, netted more than 6,000 votes in an election decided by just 32.

GOP candidate Ileana Garcia, a television personality and co-founder of Latinas for Trump, won the race.

Artiles is accused of recruiting and paying nearly $50,000 to Alex Rodriguez. State prosecutors are still investigating the origins of the money and have not named a third person who is accused of withdrawing $9,000 from a bank to give to Alex Rodriguez.

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