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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/police-investigate-voter-intimidation-over-armed-men-hired-by-trump-campaign-at-florida-polling-station/ar-BB1aibDy?ocid=msedgntp


Police Investigate Voter Intimidation Over Armed Men 'Hired By Trump Campaign' At Florida Polling Station


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Police are investigating possible voter intimidation in the battleground state of Florida after two men reportedly dressed as private security officers and claiming to be working for the Trump campaign set up a tent outside a polling station.

a group of people standing outside of a building: Voters wait in line to cast their ballots during early voting at the Miami-Dade County Election Department in Miami, Florida on October 21, 2020. Hundreds of attorneys and volunteers from the presidential campaigns of Donald Trump and Joe Biden have deployed to Florida polling stations to make sure votes for their candidates are respected, as record numbers of people cast ballots early. Tensions are especially high as fear about the coronavirus and violence at polling stations is compounded by Florida's history of contested elections that have ended in recounts or even court battles.© CHANDAN KHANNA/AFP/Getty Images Voters wait in line to cast their ballots during early voting at the Miami-Dade County Election Department in Miami, Florida on October 21, 2020. Hundreds of attorneys and volunteers from the presidential campaigns of Donald Trump and Joe Biden have deployed to Florida polling stations to make sure votes for their candidates are respected, as record numbers of people cast ballots early. Tensions are especially high as fear about the coronavirus and violence at polling stations is compounded by Florida's history of contested elections that have ended in recounts or even court battles.
The Pinellas County Sheriff's Office launched the probe after the men—at least one of whom was armed—were reported to be stationed outside an early voting location in St Petersburg.


The pair, who had apparently erected a tent outside the 150 feet no soliciting zone, told police they worked for a private security company.

According to the Pinellas County Supervisor of Elections Julie Marcus, the pair also claimed they worked for the Trump campaign.

"These persons claimed or said that they were hired by the Trump campaign, again I'm not going to speculate," Marcus told ABC Action News. "This was a licensed security company and they were licensed security officers."

The men left the area due to poor weather conditions but said they would return on Thursday.

Marcus said: "I and the sheriff take voter intimidation very seriously. Any type of voter intimidation will not be tolerated.

"We're going to ensure that our voters feel s

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow a ill-legitimate president declares himself the winner...

needless to say trump made the post office not even do as court ordered and made sure ballots were not postmarked or delivered by states laws because trump did miserable in pre election date voting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-postal-service-blows-court-ordered-deadline-to-check-for-missing-ballots-about-300-000-can-t-be-traced/ar-BB1aFo6N?ocid=msedgntp


US Postal Service blows court-ordered deadline to check for missing ballots. About 300,000 can't be traced


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USA TODAY logoUS Postal Service blows court-ordered deadline to check for missing ballots. About 300,000 can't be traced

The U.S. Postal Service blew a court-ordered deadline Tuesday to sweep mail-processing facilities in more than a dozen states for missing election ballots that could number in the hundreds of thousands.

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U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan in Washington ordered the sweep Tuesday morning after the Postal Service said its delivery performance had dropped over the past five days and could not say whether more than 300,000 ballots received in its facilities had been delivered.


The sweep was to happen in 12 postal districts, including in battleground states Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Texas and Wisconsin.

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Sullivan gave the agency until 3:30 p.m. to finish the task.

The Postal Service said in its update to Sullivan at 4:30 p.m. that it was unable to conduct the sweep because it would have “significantly” disrupted its Election Day activities. Instead, the agency said, it would continue its preplanned daily review process in its 220 facilities nationwide that process ballots and would try to deliver any remaining ballots.

a person sitting in a car: A person drops off an application for a mail-in ballot in Omaha, Neb., on Aug. 18.© Nati Harnik, AP Images A person drops off an application for a mail-in ballot in Omaha, Neb., on Aug. 18.
In a response to the Postal Service later on Tuesday, Sullivan wrote that because postal inspectors were scheduled to be onsite at processing facilities from 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. and work to resolve issues as quickly as possible, he would let the process continue. However, he admonished that federal officials should be prepared to "discuss the apparent lack of compliance" at a hearing at noon Wednesday.

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The window is closing fast. The deadline for mail-in ballots was at the close of polls Tuesday night or had already passed in 29 states.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biden needs to take the podium and tell the american people they have spoken again... That the ill-legitimate sexual predator it is time to run... this time the USA has given the dem 2.5% more votes than trump and he should run to Russia as fast as he promised there are golden showers galore there and P galore of children for pedophiles like him.. .

the majority of americams have spoken... go rape another society.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bush-appointed-judge-savages-gop-case-against-pa-mail-in-ballots-election-code-is-not-meant-to-disenfranchise-voters/ar-BB1aH12x?ocid=msedgntp


Bush-Appointed Judge Savages GOP Case Against Pa. Mail-in Ballots: Election Code Is Not Meant to Disenfranchise Voters


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Some two hours into a hearing that could affect ballot-counting in the key battleground state of Pennsylvania, a federal judge on Wednesday morning told attorneys for the Republican challengers that they had not explained the crux of their Election Day lawsuit.

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“I don’t understand how the integrity of the election was affected,” U.S. District Judge Timothy Savage, a George W. Bush appointee, remarked. “That’s what I’m looking for.”


That pronouncement spells trouble for failed political candidate Kathy Barnette, whom the Associated Press reported lost in a landslide to the Democrat in her congressional race for Pennsylvania’s District 4, serving Montgomery County. Barnette trailed by the winner, Madeleine Dean, by double-digits when the race was called. Three-quarters of all ballots were counted when today’s hearing began.

But Barnette’s legal battles at the Eastern District of Pennsylvania resumed at 9 a.m. Eastern Time in Judge Savage’s court, as her attorney Thomas Breth volleyed one pointed question after another from the bench.

Before Election Day, Montgomery County gave voters who submitted mail-in or absentee ballots that appear to be defective a chance to cure the error, including by adding a security envelope if one is missing. The Republican challengers claim that is unconstitutional, and Judge Savage pressed their counsel on what would happen if he were one of those voters

“What happens to my vote?” Savage asked.


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“It’s like any vote that’s improperly cast,” Breth replied. “It’s potentially disqualified.”

For the county’s lawyer Michele Hangley, the Republicans’ position sounded suspiciously like setting a “trap” to deprive people of their right to vote.

“The election code, it’s not meant to be a trap” in order to disenfranchise voters, Hangley noted.

Savage replied that the purpose of Pennsylvania’s election code is to enfranchise voters.

“That is correct,” Hangley agreed.

An attorney for the Democratic National Committee, which intervened in the lawsuit, argued that the GOP challengers gave up their strategy by waiting until Nov. 3 to file, arguing that the timing revealed the litigation to be an attempt to disenfranchise rather than an effort to vindicate a legal right.

Lee Soltysiak, the chief operating officer for Montgomery County, testified that both parties knew about their practice of letting voters correct potential defects in mail-in ballots before Election Day.

Judge Savage gave the challenges opportunity for additional briefing, before adjourning today’s hearing without a ruling from the bench

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shows mentally unstable right wingers... come on right wing religious in name only on this forum. Please show your illness here and explain to us that have a brain.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-supporters-demand-vote-counting-stop-where-president-leads-continues-where-he-trails/ar-BB1aIe2q?ocid=msedgntp

Trump Supporters Demand Vote Counting Stop Where President Leads, Continues Where He Trails

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/2020-11-05-trump-biden-election-results-n1246510/ncrd1246706#liveBlogHeader


About the Nevada GOP's 'criminal referral'


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While Republicans in Nevada have yet to file the lawsuit they promised earlier Thursday, the Nevada Republican Party did tweet the following:

“Our lawyers just sent a criminal referral to AG Barr regarding at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud. We expect that number to grow substantially. Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they moved from NV.”

A couple of points:

First, It is not necessarily illegal for someone who lives out of state to vote in Nevada. Many states allow people who move way to continue to vote in their home states, provided they intend to return.

Examples might include someone who moves to take a short-term job, or attend school, or care for a relative, or for military service. They change their address to continue receiving mail, and maybe they even sell their home. But if they intend to return, they can still vote in their home state — as long as they don’t also vote in the place where they’re currently living.

Second, don’t be dazzled by the phrase “criminal referral.” It just means they sent a letter. Anyone can say they think a crime has been committed and call it a criminal referral.

And finally, this appears to be based simply on comparing the list of general election voters to change of address records. However, to be “voter fraud,” which is a crime, voters would have to know they were not eligible to vote but did so anyway. In other words, there has to be an intent to commit a crime.

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