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Beach sneezes: Empiricism beats the hell out of opinions!
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the topic I'm sick of; it's the endless repetition. "Breaking News", my butt. I'd pay much more attention if "they" would just present a couple of minutes each day on what's actually new and different today that applies to the man in the street going about his daily life, and that doesn't include body counts in Kalamazoo or Farknagistan. Fox News is blitzing viewers with ads for their new 24-hour streaming news blast that promises to repeat all the news every 15 minutes. My GOD, Fox ... please ... SPARE ME. (Besides, don't they already do that?)

What did I learn today about CV or Covid? That it kills cancer patients at a rate twice that of cancer-free citizens. Whooppee! What am I going to do with that tidbit ... stick my head in a cotton bale and hide in my basement? No, I'm going to build a smaller sail and a bigger board, pass on Saturday evening's 45 mph average drive-by nuclear shock wave, and rig a bit farther upwind of the sneezing masses when the wind is less threatening.

Tip: cut out the wheat for a few weeks and see if the hay fever disappears. It's a common, often very effective, cure Big Pharma won't tell you about.

Gorge wind forecasts are MUCH more useful to me, even though they're probably about as accurate as predictions of when the pandemonium will stop.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomg wrote:
Some sane thinking on the topic (f you are not completely sick of this topic by now)

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/4/24/21233226/coronavirus-runners-cyclists-airborne-infectious-dose


This was semi interesting until it said, very early on, those at high risk, this isn’t applicable. Considering the amount of healthy people, young old etc, that have sucommended
The heath officials don’t know what they don’t know.
The poster who mentioned masks must have a message there

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some interesting reads on face mask this month

IZA Institute of Labor Economics June, 2020

Face Masks Considerably Reduce COVID-19 Cases in Germany:A Synthetic Control Method Approach1We use the synthetic control method to analyze the effect of face masks on the spread of Covid-19 in Germany. Our identification approach exploits regional variation in the point in time when face masks became compulsory. Depending on the region we analyse, we find that face masks reduced the cumulative number of registered Covid-19 cases between 2.3% and 13% over a period of 10 days after they became compulsory. Assessing the credibility of the various estimates, we conclude that face masks reduce the daily growth rate of reported infections by around 40
http://ftp.iza.org/dp13319.pdf

Universities of Cambridge and Greenwich June 10, 2020

The widespread use of face masks keeps the coronavirus reproduction number below 1.0, and prevents further waves when combined with lockdowns, new research suggests.

Researchers say even homemade masks with limited effectiveness can dramatically reduce transmission rates if worn by enough people, regardless of whether they show symptoms.

Lead author, Dr Richard Stutt, part of a team that usually models the spread of crop diseases at Cambridge’s department of plant sciences, said: “Our analyses support the immediate and universal adoption of face masks by the public.

“If widespread face mask use by the public is combined with physical distancing and some lockdown, it may offer an acceptable way of managing the pandemic and re-opening economic activity long before there is a working vaccine.”
https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/face-mask-use-needed-to-prevent-covid-19-second-wave/

CDC study of Roosevelt outbreak finds lower rates of COVID-19 among sailors who wore masks. June 9, 2020


Sailors also answered survey questions about precautions they took. Those responses, the Navy says, demonstrate the effectiveness of mask-wearing and social distancing.

“Service members who reported taking preventive measures compared to those who did not had a lower infection rate,"the Navy said.

Those wearing a face covering had a 55.8 percent infection rate versus those not wearing masks, who had a 80.8 percent infection rate, the study said.

Sailors who avoided common areas had a 53.8 percent infection rate versus those who didn’t and had a 67.5 percent infection rate.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/military/story/2020-06-09/cdc-study-of-roosevelt-outbreak-finds-lower-rates-of-covid-19-among-sailors-who-wore-masks

The Roosevelt study implied that "you" wearing mask can reduce your chance of being infected by 25%.

The Hong Kong hamster study is right. Even WHO changes their tune now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appreciate you posting thanks.
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