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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
The liberal usual suspects here prefer to get the other side of the issue here, not from something other than a liberal news source. The reason, here they can ridicule directly the person who posted it, whereas anywhere else they can't.


Speak for yourself , NW. I read many sources daily...You should try it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do, everyday, and thanks for starting the second page with my salient point. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
I do, everyday, and thanks for starting the second page with my salient point. Wink

You're welcome. I'll just assume you support your comrades ridiculous rant to open what could have been an interesting discussion on what people rely on to get their news...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We know the right-wingers lie and support a serial liar. Seems that is what right-wingers teach and is their family roots/core value to love a liar. Hence when supporting a serial liar to be president gee ya think we want proof you are not lying. Especially when most on this forum on the right have been noted for posting russian propaganda and lies and are proud of repeating that behavior.

give us a link and we will see if you are quoting the Russian handlers to suck up to. you idiots do not give links to virtually anything but your russian handlers ordered site . Go have a pizzagate party.... again a general of the USA who had intelligence background was so stupid and was involved in that lie conspiracy.

But as we know your heros media the enquirer has plea-bargained to not go to jail. they were hiding the fact that trump was f-ing porno stars before the election. Why would we trust your right wing media. Fux owner the largest media in the world has had how many coverups of sexual assult slavery and illegal breaking into people phones. yes we know you love your child rapists...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a just recent example of what is acceptable by the right wing liars.


another right wing fake... how did she get the job?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpZNyv87b4E

State Department Staffer Used Embellished Resume, Fake Time Magazine Cover | Andrea Mitchell | MSNBC
147,909 views•Nov 12, 2019


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A senior Trump administration official has embellished her résumé with misleading claims about her professional background — even creating a fake Time magazine cover with her face on it — raising questions about her qualifications to hold a top position at the State Department. Mina Chang, the deputy assistant secretary in the State Department's Bureau of Conflict and Stability Operations, falsely claims to be a Harvard grad, and exaggerated the scope of her nonprofit's work. Aired on 11/12/19.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of passing the trade deal, this is today's democrat controlled house.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just waiting for Jim Jordan......To break out into the classic line from REO speedwagon...

"I heard it from a friend who, heard it from friend who, heard it from friend you've been messing around""

That would have been bloody brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
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isobars



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Aw, he peeked. The point is to use credible sources to give you facts about what happened. Then you can check different sources to get their opinions on what it means.

Try it Iso. Particularly on climate change.

Peeking? No, I dropped my shields altogether because in beginning a new thread, I feel obligated to consider any and all responses to it for a while. That obligation will come to a screeching halt if you or others continue to kick and lie about long-dead horses. YOU were the one who refused to even look at Lomborg’s extensive and very heavily researched and ongoing body of work until I embarrassed you into at least thumbing through it.

vientomas wrote:
This is an absolute joke coming from the guy who has a "kill file" and refuses to even read comments from other people on the forum. You can't debate someone if you are deaf to what they are saying. What a ridiculous and ironic comment from Iso. Pot, meet kettle.

IIRC, nowhere in my MANY explanations of why I set up my killfile did I include opposition to their ideas. It’s their behavior, not their ideology. Their ideology is often insane (open borders), but that’s half opinion (to which they’re entitled), half factual ignorance (largely because they refuse to even look at, let alone consider, the other sides of the stories), and half total stupidity (damned near anything AOC says).

My obligation to consider responses even included Dean, but I don’t know why I bothered. Child rape rooms, serial liars, posting the whole internet with absolutely no interest in vetting any of it yet endlessly demanding that others re-cite ad infinitum their sources, whole pages of debating with himself a la Brucie … and that was even BEFORE I plonked His Royal Insanity. Every single day I see proven facts on major issues many of you never even see because your so-called “news” media so often miss altogether, lie about, or even outright suppress.

Example: Did you even even know that ABC and NBC, with the support of most other fake news outlets, flat-out censored the now-proved Epstein, Lauer, and Weinstein stories for years for purely self-serving reasons including protecting the Clinton cabal? They even fired “leakers” in some cases! (Since when is publishing unclassified facts “leaking”?)

Of course I’m not innocent of labeling the far left’s (and right’s) behaviors, on both group and personal levels. The difference is that I’ve backed up my accusations, whereas none of you has ever proven -- because, as you know, they’re false -- your frequent claims that I lie or am a racist.

When I encounter a new (to me) dilemma worth the effort (to me), I study both sides in search of one of three end points: clarity, a genuine dilemma with two valid sides, or so much turmoil even among experts that I feel free to choose for myself. That has served me so well over the decades that I can’t comprehend why anyone, even those motivated primarily by hatred like the left and right fringes, would sell their very souls so completely in important issues they don’t even understand because they won’t research it, simply don’t care about the facts, and/or have to belong to some peer group. Even Pelosi, almost alone among her world, understands the threat her party faces if they continue with this stupid, jello-based, totally partisan, opaque, witch hunt poster child, impeachment insanity. "We unofficially declare you guilty, so pack up and leave", my LOL ass.

And that was the short response, devoid of the list of (mostly important, some life-impacting) issues I’ve studied all sides of. Fringers should try it sometime.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
I was just waiting for Jim Jordan......To break out into the classic line from REO speedwagon...

"I heard it from a friend who, heard it from friend who, heard it from friend you've been messing around""

That would have been bloody brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...


Matty's hero did nothing while hundreds were molested. But I guess he was white and male.

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Nov 8 2019, 6:14amShareTweetSnap

A wrestling referee alleges in a lawsuit that when he told Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) that now-disgraced Ohio State doctor Richard Strauss masturbated in front of him in a shower, Jordan did nothing.

The pro referee is identified only as John Doe in court documents, reported NBC News on Thursday. In 1994, when Jordan was an assistant coach on Ohio State’s wrestling team, the ref alleges, Strauss performed the sex act in front of him in a shower after he worked a match.

John Doe says Jordan shrugged it off.

“Yeah, that’s Strauss,” Jordan and then-head coach Russ Hellickson told Doe, according to the lawsuit.

Jordan — an extreme loyalist to President Donald Trump — has taken on an increasingly prominent role within the GOP amid the impeachment inquiry. Republicans are considering adding him to the Intelligence Committee days before public impeachment hearings are scheduled to begin, the Los Angeles Times reported Thursday.

READ: Nearly 1,500 accusations of sexual assault filed against OSU doctor

Jordan has repeatedly denied that he knew about the abuse carried out by Strauss. The longtime Ohio State doctor — who died by suicide in 2005 — abused at least 177 male students, according to a report from the university released in May. But the referee alleges it was an open secret.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Instead of passing the trade deal, this is today's democrat controlled house.


NYP isn't that the rag that has never turned a profit but is run by the ultra partisan hater who has rapists running his businesses? Yep Ruppy Murdoch, a guy wh condones rapists to put out his hypocritical moral hate.

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