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isobars
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:00 am Post subject: |
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nw30 wrote: | And it's all going to happen so fast, that there is no chance to keep up with it, and people will die in mass. That notion, which is behind the dire predictions, w/o really admitting it, is why there are so many people who don't buy it. |
Wel, that, and
• the endless proof that AGW alarmism is more about politics than science,
• the endless fabrications such as 97% (or even ALL) of "scientists agree" that it's catastrophic and imminent (we're all supposed to have drowned by now, remember?),
• that man can control it,
• that's its threat ranks any higher than 18th among the concerns of most of the world's civilized (i.e., rational) nations,
• that man CAN mitigate or even eradicate the 17 to 18 greater threats for 0.001% to 0.1% of the costs and in 3-5% of the time proposed by even the most threatening COMPUTER PROJECTIONS of the AGW alarmism crowd,
• the earth is getting greener as the global temps and CO2 levels rise ... until, of course, they fall again,
• little old ladies in France would survive their summertime heat waves much better if their medical facilities and providers didn't shut down for the entire month off because they wanna go to the beach,
• that many people who make their living forecasting hurricanes and other natural disasters say AGW alarmism is absolute nonsense,
• The loudest doomsayers prove with every private jet ride that they don't believe this shit either and/or want us peons to sacrifice hamburgers, personal transportation, and air travel while (or even BECAUSE) they go to Davos in 114 Gulfstreams to discuss our excesses such as windsurfing, skiing, getting to and from work, and air conditioning (we had to call ambulances for people collapsing in 90-100-degree government office buildings when Jimmy Carter presided). |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, let's be stupid and do nothing, right? |
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techno900
Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4164
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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swchandler said: Quote: | Oh, let's be stupid and do nothing, right? |
Nothing? Just open your eyes. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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With a foolish Donald Trump actively pushing irresponsible deregulation on so many fronts, should I feel comfortable with his actions when we're up against so many difficult problems that need to be addressed? There is so much that can be done, but he doesn't get it. Pretty damn stupid, don't you think? Why follow a fool? |
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mat-ty
Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | With a foolish Donald Trump actively pushing irresponsible deregulation on so many fronts, should I feel comfortable with his actions when we're up against so many difficult problems that need to be addressed? There is so much that can be done, but he doesn't get it. Pretty damn stupid, don't you think? Why follow a fool? |
We only have 11 years left.....
Maybe if dems would stop fear mongering and offer realistic solutions to the energy demands of 330 million people we could get something done.
Hard to take people who's heads are full of rainbows and unicorns serious. |
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swchandler
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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mat-ty, have I been irresponsibly pushing for outrageous or unrealistic goals? I don' think that you can say that.
All I know is that Donald Trump is doing some really stupid stuff, and he is deliberately ignoring what needs to be done moving into the future. You can't move ahead trying to recreate a past long gone. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17750 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Doubles down again, Matty, in total ignorance of what has actually been proposed, claims:
Quote: | Maybe if dems would stop fear mongering and offer realistic solutions to the energy demands of 330 million people we could get something done. |
The most cost-effective things that were proposed--and implemented--by Obama were attacked by Republicans corrupted by big carbon. Trump has done his best to dismantle everything that would reduce demand--most recently California's fuel standard.
Always sure of himself, never right. |
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mat-ty
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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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mac wrote: | Doubles down again, Matty, in total ignorance of what has actually been proposed, claims:
Quote: | Maybe if dems would stop fear mongering and offer realistic solutions to the energy demands of 330 million people we could get something done. |
The most cost-effective things that were proposed--and implemented--by Obama were attacked by Republicans corrupted by big carbon. Trump has done his best to dismantle everything that would reduce demand--most recently California's fuel standard.
Always sure of himself, never right. |
Have you listened to morons in your party?????????????? oppose nukes , oppose fossil fuel..... wind, solar, and algae are pipe dreams for morons... |
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mac
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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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mat-ty wrote: | mac wrote: | Doubles down again, Matty, in total ignorance of what has actually been proposed, claims:
Quote: | Maybe if dems would stop fear mongering and offer realistic solutions to the energy demands of 330 million people we could get something done. |
The most cost-effective things that were proposed--and implemented--by Obama were attacked by Republicans corrupted by big carbon. Trump has done his best to dismantle everything that would reduce demand--most recently California's fuel standard.
Always sure of himself, never right. |
Have you listened to morons in your party?????????????? oppose nukes , oppose fossil fuel..... wind, solar, and algae are pipe dreams for morons... |
Have you listened to the morons in your party? Oppose conservation, subsidize fossil fuel, subsidize nuclear power no matter how uneconomical it is...bought and paid for. |
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mat-ty
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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mac wrote: | mat-ty wrote: | mac wrote: | Doubles down again, Matty, in total ignorance of what has actually been proposed, claims:
Quote: | Maybe if dems would stop fear mongering and offer realistic solutions to the energy demands of 330 million people we could get something done. |
The most cost-effective things that were proposed--and implemented--by Obama were attacked by Republicans corrupted by big carbon. Trump has done his best to dismantle everything that would reduce demand--most recently California's fuel standard.
Always sure of himself, never right. |
Have you listened to morons in your party?????????????? oppose nukes , oppose fossil fuel..... wind, solar, and algae are pipe dreams for morons... |
Have you listened to the morons in your party? Oppose conservation, subsidize fossil fuel, subsidize nuclear power no matter how uneconomical it is...bought and paid for. |
That's right they live in reality, not the world of unicorns and rainbows.
America has huge energy demands and if the morons liberal got their way it would tank the economy and millions of jobs and .........party of retards |
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