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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
How big is the subsidy Matty? How much will the clean-up of Fukushima cost? Since you don't trust government, and the Japanese government allowed the utility to ignore the tsunami hazard at Fukushima, and the generators have tried to ignore faults at Diablo Canyon and San Onofre, and Trump is destroying every bit of government oversight he can--who's going to make it safe? And who's going to pay for the clean-up when it isn't?

Of course we could also talk about cooling water...but it doesn't help to have a conversation with someone who knows absolutely nothing.


Know enough to reduce you to a blathering fool.....who's gonna...who's gonna...lol ....fucking nitwit .

Which one is it moron...destroy the Earth and 7 billion peoples lungs with carbon ???? or risk a much less dangerous and likely Nuclear accident????
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still waiting for a coherent response.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
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Unless we can agree that climate change is real, we cannot begin to address solutions in a "rational" manner. This isn't just the fault of the left as you guys cast it. Denial is not a strategy.


Fine and dandy, but no comment on the key players of the world and their commitment to carbon reduction. The US isn't just sitting on their butts, progress is being made while the biggest players in the world continue to be a growing problem.

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U.S. Leads World In Reducing CO2 Emissions, While Paris Accord Nations Break Promises


Read more at:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/34848/study-us-leads-world-reducing-co2-emissions-while-james-barrett


Aren't you the poster who belittled my installation of solar panels? As I recall, you actually even called me an insult in the process. Pretty funny Techno that you now take credit for the reductions in carbon.

The US has reduced carbon as a result of the Obama Administration and the advancements in higher efficiency. In addition, the use of natural gas as a replacement for coal has done its share. It has nothing to do with pulling out of the climate accord.

Yes. We need to make this a global effort or it means nothing. So, lets have a trade war with China and play that card for whatever reason Trump has (does he have one?) instead of using our trading to stimulate compromises and agreements on carbon reduction? That's what we should be doing.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Washington Post today.

Antarctic sea ice has grown to a record large extent for a second straight year, baffling scientists seeking to understand why this ice is expanding rather than shrinking in a warming world.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coboardhead wrote:
techno900 wrote:
coboardhead said:
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Unless we can agree that climate change is real, we cannot begin to address solutions in a "rational" manner. This isn't just the fault of the left as you guys cast it. Denial is not a strategy.


Fine and dandy, but no comment on the key players of the world and their commitment to carbon reduction. The US isn't just sitting on their butts, progress is being made while the biggest players in the world continue to be a growing problem.

Quote:
U.S. Leads World In Reducing CO2 Emissions, While Paris Accord Nations Break Promises


Read more at:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/34848/study-us-leads-world-reducing-co2-emissions-while-james-barrett


Aren't you the poster who belittled my installation of solar panels? As I recall, you actually even called me an insult in the process. Pretty funny Techno that you now take credit for the reductions in carbon.

The US has reduced carbon as a result of the Obama Administration and the advancements in higher efficiency. In addition, the use of natural gas as a replacement for coal has done its share. It has nothing to do with pulling out of the climate accord.

Yes. We need to make this a global effort or it means nothing. So, lets have a trade war with China and play that card for whatever reason Trump has (does he have one?) instead of using our trading to stimulate compromises and agreements on carbon reduction? That's what we should be doing.




Does he have one?????? did you seriously ask that question?? China is raping us to the tune of 500 billion per year. You lefties run around screaming Russia, Russia , Russia, when they pose little threat to us, but say next to nothing about the biggest thief's on Earth...not to mention polluters..

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Aren't you the poster who belittled my installation of solar panels? As I recall, you actually even called me an insult in the process. Pretty funny Techno that you now take credit for the reductions in carbon.

Not me, in fact I am on the Architectural Review Committee in our development (1300 homes) and was an advocate of changing our "Guidelines" to accommodate those that wanted to install solar. Six home have done so in the last year and a half. Solar is fine and dandy, so are hybrid and electric cars as well as wind power.

My obvious point is that with all the hype from the left about climate change, and what the US must rush to do to solve it, is for the most part - BS. The US leads the world, but that is just a small part of solving the overall problem.

Do you actually think that with or without Trump's trade war with China, that that would have any impact on China's need for power generation.


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Most of the electricity in China comes from coal, which accounted for 66% of the electricity generation mix in 2016.[2] Coal-fired electricity production declined from 2013 to 2016 coinciding with a major boom in renewable energy, and a decline in GDP growth.[3][4] China's coal powered generating capacity is expected to increase to 1300 GW by 2020, from 960 GW in 2016, despite official plans to limit that growth to 1100 GW.[5]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_China
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Washington Post today.

Antarctic sea ice has grown to a record large extent for a second straight year, baffling scientists seeking to understand why this ice is expanding rather than shrinking in a warming world.


Bard—-the Antarctic is much colder than the Arctic. Ice always melts during the summer in the Arctic—the question is how much. The increases in the Antarctic are on the order of 1%, so the net trend is still down.

Did you also pick cherries for a living when you were younger?

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/features/despite-antarctic-gains-global-sea-ice-shrinking
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