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real-human
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| techno900 wrote: | baja said: | Quote: | | Again she can not erase anyone else's emails that is... So with all the FBI investigation and the numerous right-wing investigations not one of her emails that was sent of the 30,000 deleted have been found on government computers to show her lawyers made one single mistake. |
Are we to assume that ALL 30,000 were found? I think not. More than likely, there are thousands that were never found because they weren't on government computers. One can only speculate what was in those thousands of emails and who received them. If there was nothing to hide, then why was there such extreme elimination/destruction of the emails and hardware? |
you idiot you are confused, amazing you are this stupid. This was her personal email server with also her personal emails. Her personal emails are her property, only the ones that dealt with government were requested under subpoena/court order.
Yes personal emails are not subject to the government requests... The 30,000 she (actually her lawyer) deleted, at her lawyers request and actions were personal. you moron, she has a right to privacy to her daughter and personal friends and they too have a right not to disclose them to the government.
daaaaa do you get it the government was only requesting her government-related emails.
and again she as sec position can declassify anything there is. get it she was the decider what is and what is not classified and I believe no one can overrule her in the world.
Next items that became classified after she left government cannot be her responsibility it is like asking for a time travel machine.
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mac
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How quickly conservatives try to divert from the fact that multiple members of Trump's staff have been doing exactly what they bashed Hillary for. Wild speculation about the content of the deleted e-mails replaces critical thinking.
A double standard indeed. Just don't tell me about your principles. |
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techno900
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baja said: | Quote: | | Yes personal emails are not subject to the government requests... The 30,000 she (actually her lawyer) deleted, at her lawyers request and actions were personal. you moron, she has a right to privacy to her daughter and personal friends and they too have a right not to disclose them to the government. |
Only Hillary and her lawyers know what was personal and what was government property.
From Snopes: | Quote: | When did Clinton delete her 31,830 private emails?
The FBI on Sept. 2 released a two-part summary of its investigation of Clinton that said the former secretary of state’s emails were deleted “sometime between March 25-31, 2015.″ That was about three weeks after the House Select Committee on Benghazi served Clinton with a subpoena on March 4, 2015, to produce any emails related to its investigation into the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi in 2012.
Initially, the campaign had told us that the deletions occurred sometime between December 2014 and March 4, 2015, but did not provide a date. Clinton campaign spokesman Josh Schwerin later told us that Clinton and her attorneys had no knowledge of the email deletions in late March 2015 until the FBI released its report on Sept. 2. |
And you wonder why the right doesn't trust Hillary. |
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techno900
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mac said: | Quote: | | How quickly conservatives try to divert from the fact that multiple members of Trump's staff have been doing exactly what they bashed Hillary for. Wild speculation about the content of the deleted e-mails replaces critical thinking. |
While I think those that use their own email lose some trust, it's only an issue if the emails are lost/deleted and not turned over to the government as a matter of public record. We have yet to see how this turns out.
We bash Hillary not for her use of her own server, but for being the sole judge of what was or wasn't public record and for destroying everything after being subpoenaed for the emails. |
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boggsman1
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| techno900 wrote: | baja said: | Quote: | | Yes personal emails are not subject to the government requests... The 30,000 she (actually her lawyer) deleted, at her lawyers request and actions were personal. you moron, she has a right to privacy to her daughter and personal friends and they too have a right not to disclose them to the government. |
Only Hillary and her lawyers know what was personal and what was government property.
From Snopes: | Quote: | When did Clinton delete her 31,830 private emails?
The FBI on Sept. 2 released a two-part summary of its investigation of Clinton that said the former secretary of state’s emails were deleted “sometime between March 25-31, 2015.″ That was about three weeks after the House Select Committee on Benghazi served Clinton with a subpoena on March 4, 2015, to produce any emails related to its investigation into the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi in 2012.
Initially, the campaign had told us that the deletions occurred sometime between December 2014 and March 4, 2015, but did not provide a date. Clinton campaign spokesman Josh Schwerin later told us that Clinton and her attorneys had no knowledge of the email deletions in late March 2015 until the FBI released its report on Sept. 2. |
And you wonder why the right doesn't trust Hillary. |
No, I don't. The Tribal right would never vote Democrat, and their candidate could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and still wouldn't lose votes. |
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real-human
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| techno900 wrote: | baja said: | Quote: | | Yes personal emails are not subject to the government requests... The 30,000 she (actually her lawyer) deleted, at her lawyers request and actions were personal. you moron, she has a right to privacy to her daughter and personal friends and they too have a right not to disclose them to the government. |
Only Hillary and her lawyers know what was personal and what was government property.
From Snopes: | Quote: | When did Clinton delete her 31,830 private emails?
The FBI on Sept. 2 released a two-part summary of its investigation of Clinton that said the former secretary of state’s emails were deleted “sometime between March 25-31, 2015.″ That was about three weeks after the House Select Committee on Benghazi served Clinton with a subpoena on March 4, 2015, to produce any emails related to its investigation into the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi in 2012.
Initially, the campaign had told us that the deletions occurred sometime between December 2014 and March 4, 2015, but did not provide a date. Clinton campaign spokesman Josh Schwerin later told us that Clinton and her attorneys had no knowledge of the email deletions in late March 2015 until the FBI released its report on Sept. 2. |
And you wonder why the right doesn't trust Hillary. |
can you read any email to the deaths of 4 americans in Benganzi. daaa... and again it was done by her attorneys, she does not stand over her attorneys and watch what they do every second. But they obviously did it correctly as none have caused the FBI say this is a cover-up. Or this was to the level a prosecutor would go after. Remember Colin Powel a top general and former intellegence person used private emails too while in the same office. Only after Clinton left was it made a requirement not not because of this.. Didn't the Bush Whitehouse use the RNC server in the whitehouse?
Again get a clue... the FBI/justice department has access to all government email accounts. That is all members of the government except maybe the president. they found no such benganzi documents.
and again the point is her server was more secure than the state departments that got copied and distributed by was it wikileaks. Her server was safer than the US governments. She never got hacked.
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Occupy Democrats added a new video: Trevor Noah Wants to Know When Black People SHOULD Protest.Like Page
September 25 at 11:03pm ·
Trevor Noah just asked the question Trump still hasn't answered: When exactly IS it OK for black people to protest?
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From “the internet”:
Just received from a friend of mine--profound!
November 12 will have no football in this house.
An open letter to the NFL players:
You graduated high school in 2011. Your teenage years were a struggle. You
grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Your mother was the leader of the family and worked tirelessly to keep a roof over your head and food on your plate. Academics were a struggle for you and your grades were mediocre at
best. The only thing that made you stand out is you weighed 225 lbs. And
could run 40 yards in 4.2 seconds while carrying a football.
Your best friend was just like you, except he didn't play football. Instead of going to football practice after school, he went to work at McDonalds for minimum wage. You were recruited by all the big colleges and spent every weekend of your senior year making visits to universities where coaches and boosters tried to convince you their school was best. They laid out the red carpet for you. Your best friend worked double shifts at Mickey D's. College was not an option for him. On the day you signed with Big State University, your best friend signed paperwork with his Army recruiter. You went to summer workouts. He went to basic training.
You spent the next four years living in the athletic dorm, eating at the training table. You spent your Saturdays on the football field, cheered on by adoring fans. Tutors attended to your every academic need. You attended class when you felt like it. Sure, you worked hard. You lifted weights, ran sprints, studied plays, and soon became one of the top football players in the country.
Your best friend was assigned to the 101st Airborne Division. While you were in college, he deployed to Iraq once and Afghanistan twice. He became a Sergeant and led a squad of 19 year old soldiers who grew up just like he did. He shed his blood in Afghanistan and watched young American's give their lives, limbs, and innocence for the USA.
You went to the NFL combine and scored off the charts. You hired an agent and waited for draft day. You were drafted in the first round and your agent immediately went to work, ensuring that you received the most money possible. You signed for $16 million although you had never played a single down of professional football. Your best friend re-enlisted in the Army for four more years. As a combat tested sergeant, he will be paid $32,000 per year.
You will drive a Ferrari on the streets of South Beach. He will ride in the back of a Blackhawk helicopter with 10 other combat loaded soldiers. You will sleep at the Ritz. He will dig a hole in the ground and try to sleep. You will "make it rain" in the club. He will pray for rain as the temperature reaches 120 degrees. On Sunday, you will run into a stadium as tens of thousands of fans cheer and yell your name.
For your best friend, there is little difference between Sunday and any other day of the week. There are no adoring fans. There are only people trying to kill him and his soldiers. Every now and then, he and his soldiers leave the front lines and "go to the rear" to rest. He might be lucky enough to catch an NFL game on TV. When the National Anthem plays and you take a knee, he will jump to his feet and salute the television. While you protest the unfairness of life in the United States, he will give thanks to God that he has the honor of defending his great country.
To the players of the NFL: We are the people who buy your tickets, watch you on TV, and wear your jerseys. We anxiously wait for Sundays so we can cheer for you and marvel at your athleticism. Although we love to watch you play, we care little about your opinions until you offend us. You have the absolute right to express yourselves, but we have the absolute right to boycott you. We have tolerated your drug use and DUIs, your domestic violence, and your vulgar displays of wealth. We should be ashamed for putting our admiration of your physical skills before what is morally right.
But now you have gone too far. You have insulted our flag, our country, our soldiers, our police officers, and our veterans. You are living the American dream, yet you disparage our great country. I am done with NFL football and encourage all likeminded Americans to boycott the NFL as well.
National boycott of the NFL for Sunday November 12th, Veterans Day Weekend. Boycott all football telecast, all fans, all ticket holders, stay away from attending any games, let them play to empty stadiums. Pass this post along to all your friends and family. Honor our military, some of whom come home with the American Flag draped over their coffin. |
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MalibuGuru
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| My son who was all league athlete in 2 sports decided to turn down college offer to study something useful. We no longer watch football, and only occasionally watch baseball. We are both happier for it. |
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real-human
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| isobars wrote: | From “the internet”:
Just received from a friend of mine--profound!
November 12 will have no football in this house.
An open letter to the NFL players:
You graduated high school in 2011. Your teenage years were a struggle. You
grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Your mother was the leader of the family and worked tirelessly to keep a roof over your head and food on your plate. Academics were a struggle for you and your grades were mediocre at
best. The only thing that made you stand out is you weighed 225 lbs. And
could run 40 yards in 4.2 seconds while carrying a football.
Your best friend was just like you, except he didn't play football. Instead of going to football practice after school, he went to work at McDonalds for minimum wage. You were recruited by all the big colleges and spent every weekend of your senior year making visits to universities where coaches and boosters tried to convince you their school was best. They laid out the red carpet for you. Your best friend worked double shifts at Mickey D's. College was not an option for him. On the day you signed with Big State University, your best friend signed paperwork with his Army recruiter. You went to summer workouts. He went to basic training.
You spent the next four years living in the athletic dorm, eating at the training table. You spent your Saturdays on the football field, cheered on by adoring fans. Tutors attended to your every academic need. You attended class when you felt like it. Sure, you worked hard. You lifted weights, ran sprints, studied plays, and soon became one of the top football players in the country.
Your best friend was assigned to the 101st Airborne Division. While you were in college, he deployed to Iraq once and Afghanistan twice. He became a Sergeant and led a squad of 19 year old soldiers who grew up just like he did. He shed his blood in Afghanistan and watched young American's give their lives, limbs, and innocence for the USA.
You went to the NFL combine and scored off the charts. You hired an agent and waited for draft day. You were drafted in the first round and your agent immediately went to work, ensuring that you received the most money possible. You signed for $16 million although you had never played a single down of professional football. Your best friend re-enlisted in the Army for four more years. As a combat tested sergeant, he will be paid $32,000 per year.
You will drive a Ferrari on the streets of South Beach. He will ride in the back of a Blackhawk helicopter with 10 other combat loaded soldiers. You will sleep at the Ritz. He will dig a hole in the ground and try to sleep. You will "make it rain" in the club. He will pray for rain as the temperature reaches 120 degrees. On Sunday, you will run into a stadium as tens of thousands of fans cheer and yell your name.
For your best friend, there is little difference between Sunday and any other day of the week. There are no adoring fans. There are only people trying to kill him and his soldiers. Every now and then, he and his soldiers leave the front lines and "go to the rear" to rest. He might be lucky enough to catch an NFL game on TV. When the National Anthem plays and you take a knee, he will jump to his feet and salute the television. While you protest the unfairness of life in the United States, he will give thanks to God that he has the honor of defending his great country.
To the players of the NFL: We are the people who buy your tickets, watch you on TV, and wear your jerseys. We anxiously wait for Sundays so we can cheer for you and marvel at your athleticism. Although we love to watch you play, we care little about your opinions until you offend us. You have the absolute right to express yourselves, but we have the absolute right to boycott you. We have tolerated your drug use and DUIs, your domestic violence, and your vulgar displays of wealth. We should be ashamed for putting our admiration of your physical skills before what is morally right.
But now you have gone too far. You have insulted our flag, our country, our soldiers, our police officers, and our veterans. You are living the American dream, yet you disparage our great country. I am done with NFL football and encourage all likeminded Americans to boycott the NFL as well.
National boycott of the NFL for Sunday November 12th, Veterans Day Weekend. Boycott all football telecast, all fans, all ticket holders, stay away from attending any games, let them play to empty stadiums. Pass this post along to all your friends and family. Honor our military, some of whom come home with the American Flag draped over their coffin. |
what a racist fake propaganda... every generation of my family volunteered for the military. So that all people are created equal. I have two black brother and sisters.
Blacks built this country with their hard work to make it what it is. We have jumped above all nations economically because of our slave labor no other reason for americas wealth that started well before america was a nation.
Blacks even doctors and so on are afraid for their lives when driving while black because of racism in america and fake justice. The doctor at the dallas hospital that attended to the police officers that were shot even mentioned that while he is afraid that he will be killed while driving his car because some white officer sees a black in an expensive car. But that did not stop him one second from giving those officers who may disrespect him from giving them all the best care he could.
We have racists like you to perpetuate the hate...
the freedom and prosperity we received from being a slave nation is still lasting.
You friggen racist pig ISSIL, may you rot in a hot place... you are the scum of the earth with your Nazi and KKK Russian friends.
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