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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the stock market digs Trumps recent implosion.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
NW, was that you sailing at AL today on the Ezzy sail?

Nope, but it could have been almost any of my friends, almost all of us locals use Ezzy sails. According to my computer, I'll be there today, on an Ezzy sail, and I'll be driving a white van, like most of the other white vans.
LOL, but true.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
Apparently the stock market digs Trumps recent implosion.....

Or his victory speech, it was very good.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
Apparently the stock market digs Trumps recent implosion.....

Or his victory speech, it was very good.

Stock/Bond market is terrified of The Donald.....uncertainty taken to a new level.
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
nw30 wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
Apparently the stock market digs Trumps recent implosion.....

Or his victory speech, it was very good.

Stock/Bond market is terrified of The Donald.....uncertainty taken to a new level.


If the markets are afraid, but main street rejoices, America will be great Again. It's about the middle class, not the ruling class.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
nw30 wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
Apparently the stock market digs Trumps recent implosion.....

Or his victory speech, it was very good.

Stock/Bond market is terrified of The Donald.....uncertainty taken to a new level.


If the markets are afraid, but main street rejoices, America will be great Again. It's about the middle class, not the ruling class.

It's about all classes. I don't appreciate the demonization of Wall Street or any group in particular..trumps anti free trade, closed border, protectionist rap is scary . Half McCarthy/ Half Hoover....zero Ronnie... Not a good look.
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boggs, he's mentioned many times his tariffs are only an opening salvo. They need to be afraid of him before he gets to the heart of the subject. And, I think you'll admit that our trade deals could be more advantageous to Americans.

Also, you probably know that the "market value" means far less today than 30 years ago to the average American, because most of these companies (value wise) are off shore corporations. IOW's, from this point forward, if Carrier A/C lays off employees and it's stock value craters, Mexico's people will be affected more than America's.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
Apparently the stock market digs Trumps recent implosion.....


I picked up SH yesterday and sold today, but I'm ready to hang with Soros and many others on the short. Considering a big position in SH when the collapse begins. Could be as soon as next week or 5 years, but it's coming.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fascinating interview of the campaign managers of many of the failed GOP candidates. Interesting insight into why Trump did well and why some of the others did so poorly. Not overtly partisan. http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/sad/
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many Sanders and Trump supporters have life experience that lead them to believe our "Free Trade" agreements didn't lead to fair trade. They know that middle and lower classes came out as net losers, and Wall Street and Washington Establishment came out winners.

Clyde Prestowitz, former counselor to the secretary of commerce in the Reagan administration, gives a clear explanation how we got to this point:

http://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/junejulyaug-2016/free-trade-is-dead/
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