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boggsman1
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Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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KC...I see you have referenced Breitbardt on a couple of posts....isn't he dead? Are you telling me the Moonie Right is now relying on a dead guy for their talking points? |
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keycocker
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Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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His site carries on the great traditions of the founder.
NW30 has been giving us links to it. |
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windoggi
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Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Not my first choice but anything is better than this. | Yup. The concept of checks and balances is dead. That requires a gentleman's agreement... _________________ /w\ |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17752 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I somehow missed this when the book came out. A review from Daily Kos:
Quote: | The Republican Brain: The Science of Why They Deny Science -- and Reality by Chris Mooney
Publisher Wiley; available on Kindle
During the darkest days of the Bush era, science writer Chris Mooney made a big splash in the publishing world with his first book detailing the Republican war on science. This month his newest effort, what could be nicknamed the Republican brain on science, hit the shelves. In it you will find Mooney is a stickler for detail, always important in any book on science, especially one with a bold title. But this is no clinical read, the book is a blast right off the bat, framing the main subject marvelously in the juiciest claims and tastier bits of conservative pseudoscientific lore readers here have come to lovingly know and ridicule.
The book opens with a synopsis of Conservapedia and a zany entry on relativity, where relativistics is portrayed as some kind of neo-liberal attack on staunch conservative values rendered in math and physics. This was quickly followed by a deft series of knock out punches dispatching classic right-wing chestnuts including birtherism and climate change. Thus, Mooney had me both chuckling and hooked by page four.
Given the title readers might be forgiven for assuming this is a purely partisan pseudoscientific attack—projection being all the rage on the right these days, eh? In fact the book is quite fair, the author carefully reviews instances where non conservatives resist evidence. He writes early on and illustrates throughout it's not that liberals or independents are always right about science, it's that, lately, conservatives are wrong a lot. From all outward appearances they often seem to be sincerely unaware of how wrong they are. At times they can even make a good faith effort to grasp why they're wrong and still fail. The book also introduced something new, at least for me, called the smart idiot effect: the more educated conservatives are, the more sure they are about their false beliefs.
How is that possible? There's no way a short review is going to craft and assemble all the parts Mooney puts together in the span of 250 pages. Maybe it could be summed up—in my words—that human brains didn't evolve to be dedicated truth detectors, they are also fitness engines for a highly social species. There's more than one way to socially integrate, leading to the book's main thesis: there are personality traits correlated with conservatives and there are other traits common, on average, to non conservatives, which imply the two groups as they currently exist fundamentally process facts and beliefs a little bit differently. One manifestation is modern-day conservatives are more difficult to persuade than non-conservatives using documented facts or reasonable inferences, particularly on issues where there's a partisan axis, even in the face of a robust scientific consensus or just plain common sense.
That is a big check to write, but it's not radical and Mooney is not the only one writing it. The same general idea has been considered by researchers in one form or another for decades, it has been used convincingly by other authors like John Dean to explain the sometimes irrational beliefs of conservatives despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Whether Mooney's science-brain version leans too much to nature and not enough to nurture is something that will continue to be examined and debated by experts in the same fields of study he writes about so well. But the book is extremely well researched, and a hell of a lot of fun to read, making it a great starting point for anyone interested in the science of anti-science.
Chris Mooney Chris Mooney is a science and political journalist, blogger, podcaster, and experienced trainer of scientists in the art of communication. He is the author of four books, including the New York Times bestselling The Republican War on Science. He blogs for "Science Progress," a website of the Center for American Progress and Center for American Progress Action Fund. Chris plans to be available this morning to respond to a few comments below.
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nw30
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Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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The Daily Kos? Really?
This is why I ignore you when you bash sources I've used.
You are really no better, but carry on w/ your left wing rags. |
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swchandler
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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You have to admit that the review of Chris Mooney's book didn't include a bunch of hate directed at President Obama. If anything, that's refreshing.
On the issue of conservatives and liberals, it's hard to find a liberal that is a science denier. Yet, entering the world of social conservatives, they're a dime a dozen. Why is that? |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17752 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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NW--the funniest thing is they found a brain. Not in your head--the review was from Daily Kos.
Too funny. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17752 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Just wait until they shut down government over the debt ceiling.
Quote: | Americans have lost faith in the rebellious tea party faction of the Republican Party, which helped the GOP reclaim control of the House nearly five years ago, a new Gallup poll released Monday shows.
Support for the movement is at an all-time low:
17 percent of adults are tea party supporters, compared to 32 percent in 2010.
24 percent oppose the tea party, compared to 31 percent last year.
54 percent neither support or oppose the group.
Politico reports that support for the conservative political movement has not topped 25 percent since August 2012, just three months before President Barack Obama's re-election.
Among subgroups:
Support among independents leaning Republican dropped from 52 percent in 2010 to 23 percent.
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Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/tea-party-low-support/2015/10/26/id/698987/#ixzz3phk2V2n7 |
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nw30
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Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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The GOP will survive the TEA party very well thank you.
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Kentucky’s New GOP Lt. Gov. Is Black Tea-Party Activist
by John Fund November 3, 2015 11:58 PM @John Fund
Matt Bevin’s 53 percent to 44 percent victory tonight marks only the second time in 48 years that Republicans have won the Kentucky governor’s race. But Republicans also made history in another way. Bevin’s lieutenant governor running-mate, Jenean Hampton, is now the first African American elected to statewide office ever in the state’s history.
Both Bevin and Hampton are Tea Party activists who have never held elective office. Hampton’s path certainly represents triumph over adversity. Born in Detroit, the 57-year-old Hampton and her three sisters were raised by a single mom who lacked a high school education and couldn’t afford a television or a car. But Hampton was determined to better herself. She graduated with a degree in industrial engineering and worked for five years in the automobile industry to pay off her college loans. She then joined the Air Force, retiring as a Captain. She earned an MBA from the University of Rochester, moved to Kentucky and became a plant manager in a corrugated packaging plant. Then she lost her job in 2012.
She used her free time to start a career in politics and becoming active in the Tea Party. She ran a losing race for state representative in 2014 but won an early endorsement from Senator Rand Paul. She was tapped by Bevin to be his running-mate earlier this year.
“I’m aware of the historical significance. People point it out … Really, I just never think about it,” she says. “We’re different races, different sexes, he grew up in the country, I grew up in the city. We represent a broad range of the Kentucky demographic.”
Bevin and Hampton were able to hold Democrat Jack Conway to only 58 percent of the vote in Louisville, Kentucky’s largest city and home to one out of five of the state’s voters. Ads featuring the Bevin-Hampton ticket and its support for school choice apparently enabled it to improve on the city’s normal Republican showing.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/426555/kentuckys-new-gop-lt-gov-black-tea-party-activist-john-fund |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17752 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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NW wets his panties over a 30% turn out. Don't count on it in 2016, no matter what you do to suppress the vote. |
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