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Flat water vs. Open Ocean waves/chop
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zirtaeb



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working on your jibe is going to be a lot harder in the open ocean, and you'll probably need that skill more than the ability to jibe in flat water.
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KevinDo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going fast as in speed sailing or slalom?

Either way, I could use a training buddy! Hit me up!

-Kevin
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westender



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Flat water vs. Open Ocean waves/chop Reply with quote

Do whatever forces you to work harder. It's determination and effort that improves your skills. Flat water doesn't sound like much of a workout.




benspikey wrote:


If I want to improve my skills should I be sailing flat water or open ocean chop? Thanks!
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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
The two disciplines are so different that I would almost call them two different sports, one is board sailing, and one is windsurfing.

Careful, NW. This group doesn't want to hear that. They claim it's a snobbish, elitist, putdown indicating a one-track mind stuck on some mythical one true version of sailing these things. I say it's all good if it is fun or if it advances one's goals. Certainly it all adds skills.
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DelCarpenter



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a flatwater board sailor I agree wave sailing is a different sport. But both of them are windsurfing. Single handed dinghy sailing and America's Cup racing are different sports but both of them are sailing.

I started another thread on "How many windsurfing sports?"
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LeeD



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flat water can be anything you want it to be.
You can cruise around sailing semi fast doing 5 mile reaches, relax and looking around.
Or, you could be the fastest in your pond, reach no farther than 200 years, and attempt your best ever jibes time and time again.
You will be exhaused in 20 minutes doing the later.
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allen



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DELCARPENTER: I started another thread on "How many windsurfing sports?"

I believe it would be windsurfing disciplines as windsufing itself is the sport and there are many disciplines within the sport.
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westender



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the average sailor that inept? I know you're not talking about yourself. Shocked

LeeD wrote:

Or, you could be the fastest in your pond, reach no farther than 200 yards, and attempt your best ever jibes time and time again.
You will be exhausted in 20 minutes doing the later.
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LeeD



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inept....
96% of windsurfer's today cannot reach 200 yards, jibe and do it again for even 3 minutes. 20 minutes, would have you doing at least 40 full planing jibes in a row.
NONE of you can do that, and neither can I. Tyson Poor can.
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westender



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. OK. Guess I hang with a different crowd. Sad

Edit for info:

I measured it today. 25 seconds. If we're just mowing the lawn you gotta jibe at 25 seconds. If the swell is good it's more than that. So,, averaging at least 2 per minute. I made one reach about as slow as I could go, 55 seconds.


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