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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Working on your jibe is going to be a lot harder in the open ocean, and you'll probably need that skill more than the ability to jibe in flat water. |
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KevinDo
Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 426 Location: Cabrillo Inside
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Going fast as in speed sailing or slalom?
Either way, I could use a training buddy! Hit me up!
-Kevin |
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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Flat water vs. Open Ocean waves/chop |
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Do whatever forces you to work harder. It's determination and effort that improves your skills. Flat water doesn't sound like much of a workout.
benspikey wrote: |
If I want to improve my skills should I be sailing flat water or open ocean chop? Thanks! |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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nw30 wrote: | The two disciplines are so different that I would almost call them two different sports, one is board sailing, and one is windsurfing. |
Careful, NW. This group doesn't want to hear that. They claim it's a snobbish, elitist, putdown indicating a one-track mind stuck on some mythical one true version of sailing these things. I say it's all good if it is fun or if it advances one's goals. Certainly it all adds skills. |
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DelCarpenter
Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 499 Location: Cedar Falls, IA
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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As a flatwater board sailor I agree wave sailing is a different sport. But both of them are windsurfing. Single handed dinghy sailing and America's Cup racing are different sports but both of them are sailing.
I started another thread on "How many windsurfing sports?" |
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LeeD
Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Flat water can be anything you want it to be.
You can cruise around sailing semi fast doing 5 mile reaches, relax and looking around.
Or, you could be the fastest in your pond, reach no farther than 200 years, and attempt your best ever jibes time and time again.
You will be exhaused in 20 minutes doing the later. |
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allen
Joined: 13 Aug 1996 Posts: 237
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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DELCARPENTER: I started another thread on "How many windsurfing sports?"
I believe it would be windsurfing disciplines as windsufing itself is the sport and there are many disciplines within the sport. |
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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Is the average sailor that inept? I know you're not talking about yourself.
LeeD wrote: |
Or, you could be the fastest in your pond, reach no farther than 200 yards, and attempt your best ever jibes time and time again.
You will be exhausted in 20 minutes doing the later. |
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LeeD
Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Inept....
96% of windsurfer's today cannot reach 200 yards, jibe and do it again for even 3 minutes. 20 minutes, would have you doing at least 40 full planing jibes in a row.
NONE of you can do that, and neither can I. Tyson Poor can. |
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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. OK. Guess I hang with a different crowd.
Edit for info:
I measured it today. 25 seconds. If we're just mowing the lawn you gotta jibe at 25 seconds. If the swell is good it's more than that. So,, averaging at least 2 per minute. I made one reach about as slow as I could go, 55 seconds.
Last edited by westender on Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:32 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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