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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pueno wrote:


Oh, wait...... my bad. You revel in horseshit.
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You are just like jimmymac, just slam the source, and then just walk away w/o offering ANYTHING that proves that what was said is wrong.
That is nothing but a horse shit flinger, as well as an eater, chow down nwodeno, it's your favorite flavor.


Thanks pueno....

what is even funnier is nw30 proved my point even more, the point is the media is rabbit right wing owned and controlled. By posting a trash piece that NW30 claims is from sound journalism that has the entire media is attacking a liberal president he proves my point on two major levels.

First: If the media was liberal they would not care if what they claim in the article is occurring was true. there would be no outrage from all those groups that they claim are outraged..

Second: you post from another trust fund ultra right wing media owner. Hard to claim again the media is liberal when quoting from a right wing owned really partisan media isn't it?

NW30 Do you have the ability to think before you puke out right wing trust funded hate.


lets look at what it takes to be a right wing journalist...

By the way, was that escort what was his name Gannon who had the hundred or so passes to the white house and a so called white house reporter asking softball leading questions to Bush one of them. Remember to claim he was a journalist in a right wingers mind he went to a couple weekend courses put on by was it Liberty University to claim he was a real journalist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon

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White House press credentials[edit]
Gannon first attended a White House press conference on February 28, 2003, and there asked a question of then White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer. At this time Gannon had never had an article published, and was not associated with any kind of news organization (Talon News had not yet been created[4]). However, Gannon states that he was editor of his high school student newspaper, as proof of having some journalistic experience.[10]

White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan later said that there was no breakdown in security and no one intervened on Gannon's behalf to ensure his access, despite the fact that he had been able to get a press pass for the White House using an assumed name. Gannon's response was that the alias Jeff Gannon was a professional name used for convenience, saying that his "real last name is hard to spell and pronounce," and that the Secret Service was aware of his identity.[4]

Journalists have said that it can take weeks to get the kind of clearance Gannon received. He was issued one-day press passes for nearly two years, avoiding the extensive background checks required for permanent passes, and sidestepping his inability to gain the necessary Congressional press pass. He applied for a Congressional press pass in April 2004 but was denied one by The Standing Committee of Correspondents, a group of congressional reporters who oversee press credential distribution on Capitol Hill, on the grounds that Talon did not qualify as a legitimate independent news service.[11] On his resume Gannon said he is a graduate of the Leadership Institute Broadcast School of Journalism, a two-day seminar for "conservatives who want a career in journalism."[12]


Or was it like Armstrong Williams being paid by the Bush Rove cartel to spout the white house propaganda?

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In January 2005, USA Today reported that documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act revealed that Williams had been paid $240,000 to promote the controversial No Child Left Behind Act. USA Today claimed Williams was hired "to promote the law on his nationally syndicated television show and to urge other black journalists to do the same".[9]

As part of the agreement, Williams was required "to regularly comment on NCLB during the course of his broadcasts," and to interview Education Secretary Rod Paige for TV and radio spots that aired during the show in 2004".[10] The contract with Williams was part of a $1 million contract between the U.S. Department of Education and the public relations company, Ketchum Inc.

Melanie Sloan from Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington told USA Today that the contract may be illegal "because Congress has prohibited propaganda ... [A]nd it's propaganda". United States Representative George Miller (D-CA), a member of the House Education Committee, called the contract "a very questionable use of taxpayers' money" that is "probably illegal".[11]


Now MW30 as far as your wish to attack the article, from what I gather these are the same policies put into effect by Bush. It is just your spin machine wants idiots like you to believe he was the intiator of these actions. Here is a more unbiassed assesment that also does not clarify this. So please show that these activities were not inherited from the Bush Rovian Cheney days. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/08/journalism-groups-obama-public-information_n_5567428.html?utm_hp_ref=media

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what???????????? this went right over your head....... do you know how to read a chart at all?


What I see in the chart is a steady decline in the rate of premium increase during the Bush years, and then the decline stops under Obama. What do you see?

I suspect that the rate of increase is about to increase significantly because of Obamacare.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Since the employer mandate isn't required yet by Obamacare, it's not surprising that the premiums have been going down. Wait until 2015 when it's required for businesses with over 100 employees and 2016 for companies with 50-99 employees, and then let's see what happens to premiums.


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What I see in the chart is a steady decline in the rate of premium increase during the Bush years, and then the decline stops under Obama. What do you see?

I suspect that the rate of increase is about to increase significantly because of Obamacare.


you fail to link what is in the chart to your statement. It makes absolutely no logical sense to make such a statement "Since the employer mandate isn't required yet by Obamacare, it's not surprising that the premiums have been going down. " from that chart. as I said you do not know how to read a chart. Do you have a clue to causation? What you are claiming has nothing to do with this chart. You are welcome to show us how, but do not expect me to believe in your BLIND faith in right wing religion of Rush et al..

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Correlation does not imply causation is a phrase in science and statistics that emphasizes that a correlation between two variables does not necessarily imply that one causes the other.[1][2] Many statistical tests calculate correlation between variables. A few go further and calculate the likelihood of a true causal relationship; examples are the Granger causality test and convergent cross mapping.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suspect that the rate of increase is about to increase significantly because of Obamacare.

You ... and the entire actuarial industry.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bajadean - Ok, you got me. My first statement was made in hast after a too quick look at your chart. Nevertheless I feel that the rate of increase will rocket once the employer mandates goes into effect. That increase will be on Obama's shoulders.

My second statement stands, rate increases were on a steady decrease during the Bush years and leveled off since Obama took over.

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and note how the rate of increase in health care costs have plummeted under the dem in the whitehouse


You may have to revisit your chart and take a second look, then modify the above statement. I don't see "plummeted under the dem", but I do see it under the Republicans.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bajadean - Ok, you got me. My first statement was made in hast after a too quick look at your chart. Nevertheless I feel that the rate of increase will rocket once the employer mandates goes into effect. That increase will be on Obama's shoulders.

My second statement stands, rate increases were on a steady decrease during the Bush years and leveled off since Obama took over.

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and note how the rate of increase in health care costs have plummeted under the dem in the whitehouse


You may have to revisit your chart and take a second look, then modify the above statement. I don't see "plummeted under the dem", but I do see it under the Republicans.



I think growth in a year of under 4% percent which is probably less than any right winger in 30 years. well it turns out record for 50 years for 2 years....


http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Bill_Clinton_Health_Care.htm
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ObamaCare has already insured millions and reduced costs

The Republicans call it, derisively, "Obamacare." They say it's a government takeover, a disaster, and that if we'll just elect them, they'll repeal it. Well, are they right? Let's take a look at what's actually happened so far.
Individuals and businesses have already gotten more than $1 billion in refunds from insurance companies because the new law requires 80% of your premium to go to your health care, not profits or promotion.

More than 3 million young people between 19 and 25 are insured for the first time because their parents' policies can cover them.

Millions of seniors are receiving preventive care

Soon the insurance companies will have millions of new customers, many of them middle-class people with pre-existing conditions who never could get insurance before.

For the last two years, health care costs have been under 4% in both years for the first time in 50 years.


here look when Clinton was in same, lower increase levels and Carter also dropped the levels.

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http://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/health-spending-growth-actual-vs-predicted-health-costs-042213.png?w=717&h=538

here it shows the dem proposal vs the two right wingers saves in 10 year about 134 billion. Bohners saves nothing.
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/graphics/2010/022310-bill-comparison.aspx

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/m-rcbg/Conferences/economic_policy/CUTLER-GRUBER.pdfhttp://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fkaiserfamilyfoundation.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F04%2Factual-and-projected-growth-in-health-spending-by-component-health-costs-042213.png&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fkff.org%2Fhealth-costs%2Fissue-brief%2Fassessing-the-effects-of-the-economy-on-the-recent-slowdown-in-health-spending-2%2F&h=2250&w=3000&tbnid=a4w9PvnbYgrMYM%3A&zoom=1&docid=vXmfDkksI-BJuM&ei=9rXBU6_1CcSdyATDyoKIDg&tbm=isch&ved=0CC8QMygRMBE&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=4531&page=1&start=0&ndsp=23


here one of your gloom and doomers are just like your predictions, not worth the paper they were written on... again when you make predictions like this you should be fired if we work on the dan rather CBS standard. Again Rather told the truth, you and yours are bold faced fear monger propagandists. You based your propaganda on what? some book of lie training called faith.
http://www.theprogressivesinfluence.com/2013/09/healthcare-premiums-skyrocketing-due-to.html
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“Internal cost estimates from 17 of the nation’s largest insurance companies indicate that health insurance premiums will grow an average of 100 percent under Obamacare,” reported the Washington Examiner. “[S]ome will soar more than 400 percent, crushing the administration's goal of affordability.” - See more at: http://www.theprogressivesinfluence.com/2013/09/healthcare-premiums-skyrocketing-due-to.html#sthash.PP88V7kO.dpuf

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is the media, no where do they see the wolf in sheeps clothing.

In California a double trust fund kid billionaire put on the ballot to separate california into six states. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/07/15/theres-a-plan-to-split-california-into-6-states-heres-what-it-might-look-like/

Daaaaa... notice how it would make a bunch of low population areas that are ultra right wing into states. he is in essence doing the same thing right wingers do in redistricting to make sure only right wingers get elected.

In this case he would make it so that the right wing areas get 8 senators and the liberal areas get 4. So again he is redistricting so the people in rural areas get an advantage vs caring about the people in total which is democracy. Why do the trust funders hate america for which it stands so much... again another trust fund elitist to keep the kings and nobles in power of not paying taxes.

Yet I have not heard a single media outlet Yet they are as a majority talking about it. yet none see through this tactic and expose it.

As a note his father wasinvolved with Reygun and international money funds. His father was in school in skull and bones with George Bush. Read the book "confessions of an economic Hit man" where this guy worked with these types of international funds to inessence give dictators loans and make them do business on the loaners behalf with US companies buying major projects that these countries did not need after making the dictators rich so they would do it.

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Draper has played an international leadership role in expanding the world economy. He served from 1981 to 1986 as President and Chairman of the Export-Import Bank of the United States and was appointed to this position by President Ronald Reagan. In this post, Draper assumed a leadership role in U.S. efforts to sustain world trade in the face of major liquidity problems among the developing countries.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a politically motivated home grown right wing terrorist among us. If this was a liberal it would be all over the media 24 7. But it is not it is a right winger who tried to assassinate the president with biological weapons.

I did a quick check for the last week to see how many news items made it to the major media of her sentencing. Again as a liberal I would have it a a headline for weeks. This would damage the right wing hat brand and suppress their voting if I could get it headimes that a right winger went McVeigh. And that right wingers are such disgusting hateful people that like her and McVeigh they do not demand that the KKK, militia, skin heads leave their party.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/texas-actress-who-sent-ricin-laced-letters-to-president-obama-receives-18-year-sentence/2014/07/16/90c38458-0d27-11e4-b8e5-d0de80767fc2_story.html?wpisrc=nl_politics

Texas actress who sent ricin-laced letters to President Obama receives 18-year sentence

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: KKK update since the right wing owned media will not plaster Reply with quote

KKK update since the right wing owned media will not plaster it front page... See how a family has not been educated that the KKK is even still out there. The right wing owned media does not even want people knowing it.



here we have even more police officials from a police force that was caught with previous KKK members. and now another 2 get caught.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/14/florid-police-kkk/12645555/
KKK membership sinks 2 Florida cops
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Echoing the once-segregated South, a Florida deputy police chief has resigned and an officer has been fired after the FBI reported that both belonged to the Ku Klux Klan

Fruitland Park Deputy Chief David Borst has denied involvement with the notorious white-hooded hate group that emerged after the Civil War and continued to terrorize and murder blacks through the mid-20th century.

The 49-year-old Borst, a department veteran of more than 20 years, was also fire chief for the Lake County city of 5,000, about 40 miles northwest of Orlando. He resigned both posts Thursday after being confronted with the FBI report.

http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/26017859/kkk-drops-recruitment-candy-bags-in-upstate-neighborhoods

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SENECA, SC (FOX Carolina) -
The KKK is recruiting in the Upstate. And a Seneca subdivision woke up Sunday to find bags of candy on their driveways with literature directing people to "Save our land, join the Klan."

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Unity rally planned in response to Upstate KKK event

In response to a private Ku Klux Klan rally later in July, various groups have planned a Unity Rally Against Hatred in Greenville.

The rally will be held on Saturday, July 26 from 3:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. at the Hughes Main Library at Heritage Green in downtown Greenville.

One family in the neighborhood is especially concerned, not realizing that the Ku Klux Klan, known for violence against African Americans and minorities through its history, was still around.

Now they're scared, afraid of the KKK's reputation and they're upset that the organization that's classified as a "hate group" is in their area.

A voicemail message picked up when someone dials the "Klan Hotline" listed on the paper. It starts with, "Be a man join the Klan! Illegal immigration is destroying America," discusses immigration concerns and ends with, "always remember if it ain't white, it ain't right. White power."

Robert Jones, the Imperial Klaliff of the sect, the Loyal White Knights, returned a call to FOX Carolina. He said that this weekend was their national night ride, a recruitment event they have three times a year. He said that chapters across the country drop literature overnight.

Jones said that the hotline has gotten around 20,000 calls a day and many people are interested in joining his cause.



here is atlanta
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/kkk-flyers-appearing-cars-atlanta-neighborhoods/ngfNt/

KKK flyers appearing on cars in Atlanta neighborhoods

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as we know the Ruppy Fux murdoch in the UK was breaking into phones to ge conversations which that was illegal on just ordinary people and many have been convicted in the UK. And I believe they should have been put on trial in th US as they tried to briba a police officer to do the same of the 9-11 victims. The ruppy epire is criminal in nature... No organization of media has ever been convicted of so many violations... and those la breakings had no debate over the government going afoul, those were just greed. Now comes a mode disturbing issue of damaging national security...



Has a private conversation of a government agent over matters of national security ever been tapped before by the news media.

Well here is a perfect example of right wing media playing a private phone call of national security. Should people at FOX be going to jail? Notice the right wing owned media is not bringing this up. To me it looks like a mater of national security when FOX is recording a private cell phone conversation and playing it.

I believe all those responsible should be brought up on charges including the enquirer owner of that media. Any idiot would know that you can not be listening in to a government agents phone call when you know it is a government agent with a top secret clearance, and even more playing it in the media live when it has not been vetted for clearance by the state department.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/07/20/fox-confronts-kerry-with-hot-mic-comment-on-israel-hell-of-a-pinpoint-operation/

Fox confronts Kerry with hot-mike comment on Israel: ‘Hell of a pinpoint operation’

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Wallace introduced the segment as being in reference to civilians killed in fighting in the Gaza Strip. "While you were on camera and while on microphone," Wallace said, "you spoke to one of your top aides between the interviews about the situation in Israel." He then played what the network had recorded. In the clip, Kerry is holding a cellphone conversation with someone. The person on the other end of the call isn't identified, and the audio from the other participant is staticky.

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