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johnl
Joined: 05 Jun 1994 Posts: 1330 Location: Hood River OR
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:43 pm Post subject: Anybody know where the Gorge forecaster gets their flow data |
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I've been watching the Gorge forecast a lot lately (like most of you) and I'm baffled by the forecast. Specifically the John Day flow. Today (6/15/14) forecast said "Columbia River Peak Flow rate at John Day Dam ~260 cfs".
First of all I think it is awesome that they add this since it helps determine if I'm going to drive to Maryhill or Rufus. But unfortunately this conflicts with my sources.
http://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/river/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?JDAO3
This shows the INFLOW (ie water coming INTO the dam) as approximately 240k cfs which would somewhat match the forecast. BUT the DISCHARGE (ie water going out of the dam and heading to Rufus, the Wall, and Maryhill) was 201k cfs @0800 PDT which is quite a difference.
Anybody else have any input on this? Such as maybe I'm using the wrong source (I doubt) or reading it wrong (I really hope not)?
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gmclean
Joined: 08 Mar 2001 Posts: 91
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think discharge is what is important but this probably requires more research in the field
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mcterry65
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30knotwind
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 239 Location: White Salmon, WA
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johnl
Joined: 05 Jun 1994 Posts: 1330 Location: Hood River OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks 30knowt, but your flows are high also. They are showing 240ish for today when the reality is the flows (by my NOAA source and MCTerry) are closer to the 200k cfs range. Yours seems to share the same flow rate as the Gorge Forecaster, HOWEVER I did notice that the forecast flow dropped significantly in the current forecast. Maybe the forecaster noticed they were reading the inflow and not the discharge?
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Temira
Joined: 15 Jun 1999 Posts: 94 Location: Hood River
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johnl
Joined: 05 Jun 1994 Posts: 1330 Location: Hood River OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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From what I've seen they can change quite a bit during the day also But I was comparing the data I was seeing @0800 vs the forecast (probably 0600 or so). That should be fairly close But it wasn't
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30knotwind
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 239 Location: White Salmon, WA
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johnl
Joined: 05 Jun 1994 Posts: 1330 Location: Hood River OR
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Crysta you gave me a good laugh reading the forecast. Nice to see you are lurking in the forums...
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