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starfish



Joined: 14 Apr 1996
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:23 pm    Post subject: Upgrade sails time? Reply with quote

Ok Should I replace my 2010 ezzy panthers for 2013 ezzy panthers ? I do believe in new sais every three to four years. Or should I use these up?
Not taking the price of the 2013 sails or the value of 2010 in consideration. Is there noticeable improvement? Of course we are talking 3.7 to 4.7 sizes.
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rlemmens



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before upgrading try the Elites. You may like them even more than the panthers.
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keycocker



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't change sails you love.New sails aren't always better for you in particular. They can actually be worse. If a sail works great sail it into the ground and spend your money on trips, camps, or lessons.
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hilton08



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rlemmens wrote:
Before upgrading try the Elites. You may like them even more than the panthers.

I love the 4 batten Ezzy Elite for Gorge sailing. They feel a size smaller in your hands than the older 5 batten sails.
Ezzy just released a 3 batten wave sail, so I see the 4 batten becoming the standard for bump and jump, and 5 batten sails becoming the norm for freeride and slalom.
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nw30



Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rlemmens wrote:
Before upgrading try the Elites. You may like them even more than the panthers.

This ^^^ I have both, and I like the Elites better, lighter feeling and they have more range.
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UncleRandy



Joined: 18 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I aim also looking to replace some sail's this year i already
Replaced my 6.9 Panther with a 2014 with 6.9 tiger with i love
More range and come's on very smooth. Now i want too replace
My 6.0 Pamther and would like to know if anyone has try the 6.1
elite? I see nw30 like them better, what size do u have? I'm concern
That the 6.1 may be to big for 4 battens.
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waitinSD



Joined: 28 Dec 2010
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also thinking about updating 5.8 Panther to a 5.7 Elite and 6.9 Panther to a 6.9 Tiger. Hesitating because not sure it will be all that much better performance. Understand big difference between 4 and 5 batten (5.8 to 5.7 Elite). Anyone done this and can compare? Howz abt 6.9 Panther to 6.9 Tiger? Much of a difference?
Not sure I agree about using stuff until it's trashed if there is an option for appreciable improvement by updating. OTOH, the Panthers are great and will only be replaced if it's really worth it. Part of this is the Panthers, as well as all Ezzys, have GREAT resale value, even more so in the large sizes in great condition, which results in very reasonable net costs for new sails.
Anyone done this and can comment?
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UncleRandy



Joined: 18 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like i said i did replace my 2009, 6.9 Panther with a 2014 6.9 tiger.
The low wind range is about the same for me just it come's on much
Smoother, not hitting as hard. We're the big improvement i think is in the
Top end it handle's gust and more wind a lot better. Over all if fill liter and
E/z to handle. I am 205 and use it from 18 to hi 20 on a 106lt board.
Hope this helps
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waitinSD



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prolly shoulda read your previous post where you gave a great description. That helps a lot! and after speaking with another long time Ezzy guy, he described it as a finesse/maneuverability v stability issue. I'm going for the 5.8 Elite and 6.9 Tiger.
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nw30



Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleRandy wrote:
I aim also looking to replace some sail's this year i already
Replaced my 6.9 Panther with a 2014 with 6.9 tiger with i love
More range and come's on very smooth. Now i want too replace
My 6.0 Pamther and would like to know if anyone has try the 6.1
elite? I see nw30 like them better, what size do u have? I'm concern
That the 6.1 may be to big for 4 battens.

I have a 5.7 Elite, the first year they made them, the 5.7 was the biggest they offered, not sure about this year's model in terms to the biggest size offered.
What I really like about it is that I can use it all the way up to 4.7 wind w/o feeling like I was loosing control, love that kind of range. I couldn't do it as easily on the Panther (now called the Tiger), close, but not quite.
All my smaller sails are Panther III's, which I still love.
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