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swchandler



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Don’t need to look; his one-track schtick is bullying, not learning (proof: demanding multiple times a day that I research and cite court cases while on post-op narcotics and devoting most waking hours to rehab)."


You know, nobody is twisting you arm. Are you looking for some sympathy from folks here? After reading your hate filled posts above, I'm thinking that your post-op narcotics have addled your mind. Take a break and smoke some of that legal Washington state pot. You know, its been proven that pot has excellent medicinal properties, and its fun too. Win, win.
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youwindsurf



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been singled out by Isobars as being a bully and he does not even know what my comment was. Instead he relies upon posts that I made more than 2 months ago to support his claim. Still stewing on that stuff Iso? Let it go Dood.

I guess when he can't argue the facts, he opts for insults.

Who is the bully now?
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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens when the minds of partisan liars and the hopelessly paranoid collide? Benghazi. Just one of a number of efforts to put David Kirkpatrick's well researched article into context:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/177757/benghazi-al-qaeda-myth#

Now comes Eric Alterman in the January 27 Nation. It isn't available on line to copy, so I'll just give you the conclusions that indict the Savage?Drudge Nation paranoids:

Kirkpatrick discovered evidence to discredit pretty much all of the accusations Republicans had leveled, and about which the mainstream media have obsessed.

He takes to task Darrell Issa's incoherent comments, which are posted here from a different source:

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Meet the Press host David Gregory and MSNBC anchor Andrea Mitchell grilled House Oversight Committee Chair Darrell Issa (R-CA) over this morning’s New York Times report alleging no al Qaeda involvement in the 2012 Benghazi attacks, which, if true, would contradict Issa’s previous statements about the attack on the NBC program.

“You’ve said repeatedly that it was al Qaeda,” Gregory said. “The reason that matters is that you and other critics said that the president specifically won’t acknowledge that it was al Qaeda because it was an election year and he wants to say that after bin Laden [al Qaeda] has been decimated, and it would make him look bad if it as al Qaeda.”

“Al Qaeda is not decimated and there is a group there involved that is linked to al Qaeda,” Issa replied. “What we never said—and I didn’t have the security to look behind the door, that’s for other members of Congress—of what the intelligence were on the exact correspondence with al Qaeda, that sort of information—those sorts of methods I’ve never claimed.”

“Why use the term al Qaeda?” Mitchell asked, somewhat rhetorically. “Because you and other members of Congress are sophisticated in this and know that when you say al Qaeda, people think central al Qaeda. They don’t think militias that may be inspired by bin laden and his other followers. So it is a hot button, for political reasons, from the administration’s view.”

“But Andrea, it was accurate,” Issa responded. “There was a group that was involved that claims an affiliation with al Qaeda. Now, al Qaeda is not a central command and control. It was, in fact, a loose group that could take general statements and act on them…The fact is people from this administration, career professionals, have said under oath there was no evidence of any kind of a reaction to a video and, in fact, this was a planned attack that came quickly. That’s the evidence we have by people who work for the U.S. government and were under oath.”


Tribal hatred for Obama and Hillary, no matter what the facts.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benghazi emails suggest White House aide involved in prepping Rice for ‘video’ explanation

By Catherine Herridge
·Published April 29, 2014·

Newly released emails on the Benghazi terror attack suggest a senior White House aide played a central role in preparing former U.N. ambassador Susan Rice for her controversial Sunday show appearances -- where she wrongly blamed protests over an Internet video.

More than 100 pages of documents were released to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. Among them was a Sept. 14, 2012, email from Ben Rhodes, an assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for strategic communications.
The Rhodes email, with the subject line: "RE: PREP Call with Susan: Saturday at 4:00 pm ET," was sent to a dozen members of the administration's inner circle, including key members of the White House communications team such as Press Secretary Jay Carney.

In the email, Rhodes specifically draws attention to the anti-Islam Internet video, without distinguishing whether the Benghazi attack was different from protests elsewhere.

The email lists the following two goals, among others:

"To underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy."

"To reinforce the President and Administration's strength and steadiness in dealing with difficult challenges."

The email goes on to state that the U.S. government rejected the message of the Internet video. "We find it disgusting and reprehensible. But there is absolutely no justification at all for responding to this movie with violence," the email stated.

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said the documents read like a PR strategy, not an effort to provide the best available intelligence to the American people.

"The goal of the White House was to do one thing primarily, which was to make the president look good. Blame it on the video and not [the] president's policies," he said.

The Rhodes email was not part of the 100 pages of emails released by the administration last May -- after Republicans refused to move forward with the confirmation of John Brennan as CIA director until the so-called "talking points" emails were made public.

The email is also significant because in congressional testimony in early April, former deputy CIA director Michael Morell told lawmakers it was Rice, in her Sunday show appearances, who linked the video to the Benghazi attack. Morell said the video was not part of the CIA analysis.

"My reaction was two-fold," Morell told members of the House Intelligence Committee, regarding her appearances. "One was that what she said about the attacks evolving spontaneously from a protest was exactly what the talking points said, and it was exactly what the intelligence community analysts believed. When she talked about the video, my reaction was, that's not something that the analysts have attributed this attack to."

Incidentally, three leading Republicans on Monday night sent letters to the House and Senate foreign affairs committees asking them to compel the administration to explain who briefed Rice in advance of the Sunday talk shows and whether State Department or White House personnel were involved.

"How could former Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice, during the five Sunday talk shows on September 16, 2012, claim that the attacks on our compounds were caused by a hateful video when Mr. Morell testified that the CIA never mentioned the video as a causal factor," said the letter, from Sens. Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina; Kelly Ayotte, of New Hampshire; and John McCain, of Arizona.

The Sept. 14 Rhodes email does not indicate whether there was a "prep call" for Rice, as it suggests. If the call went ahead, it does not indicate who briefed her.

National Security Council spokesperson Bernadette Meehan played down the Rhodes email, telling Fox News in a statement: "There were protests taking place across the region in reaction to an offensive internet video, so that’s what these points addressed. There were known protests in Cairo, Sanaa, Khartoum, and Tunis as well as early reports of similar protests in Benghazi, which contributed to questions of how the attack began…. These documents only serve to reinforce what we have long been saying: that in the days after September 11, 2012, we were concerned by unrest occurring across the region and that we provided our best assessment of what was happening at the time.”

The statement did not address Fox News’ specific questions asking whether White House personnel, particularly Rhodes, briefed Rice before the Sunday shows, and what intelligence Rhodes relied on when he referred to the video.

The newly released emails also show that on Sept. 27, 2012 a Fox News report -- titled "US officials knew Libya attack was terrorism within 24 hours, sources confirm" -- was circulated at the most senior levels of the administration. This included going to then-deputy national security adviser Denis McDonough; then-White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan; Morell; and Rhodes, among others, but the comments were redacted, citing "personal privacy information."


Catherine Herridge is an award-winning Chief Intelligence correspondent for FOX News Channel (FNC) based in Washington, D.C. She covers intelligence, the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security. Herridge joined FNC in 1996 as a London-based correspondent.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/29/benghazi-emails-suggest-white-house-aide-involved-in-prepping-rice-for-video/
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Let me help you lefties.... "Fox news, of course, it has to be nothing but lies, that's all they do is lie, lie, lie!"

nwodeno, aka, pueno, this is your cue, "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!"
You do know that every time you say that, you are desecrating those who died there.

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pueno



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nitwit30 wrote:
"Fox news, of course, it has to be nothing but lies, that's all they do is lie, lie, lie!"

Oh, really?

And here I thought Fox was Fair and Balanced.

Silly me.



nitwit30 wrote:
nwodeno, aka, pueno, this is your cue, "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!"
You do know that every time you say that, you are desecrating those who died there.

And look who just said it.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this Fox story concerned the timing and spin of the facts as they came to light. White House is involved in political spin? Astounding.
The facts all have come out now, courtesy of millions of dollars of your tax money diverted by Rep. Issa from school lunches.
Those facts show that Americans were attacked and died in Libya
No wrongdoing by the White House at all.
Beating dead horse.
Let's have a moment of silence for the other 17 embassy employees who have died in terrorist actions since 2000.
They are treated like nothing by talk radio conservatives because there is no pretext to use to blame them on Obama.
Every time some partisan screams Benghazi and points to the only dead Americans who matter those others are being desecrated.
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frederick23



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure there is anything new here NW. Mr. Rhodes just might be telling the truth. It would be interesting to hear who he got those talking points from, if anyone.

No legs to this story. Its the fog of war. Hell, no one is sure what is happening in the Ukraine and it has been weeks, not days. Is it spontaneous or planned?

All I remember the night before that attack on our embassy is the entire internet was in flames with that video and violent protests were going on around the world.

It's a dead horse. Cant imagine not having severe layers of protection as an American walking around Libya though. That was crazy and stupid.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't care, NW30, that they were lied to by their White House to cover Pres's ass. The Dems' standard "it's old news" tactic gives them an excuse to just move on, and they fell for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
They don't care, NW30....

They don't half to, there are enough of us that do.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't half to--Nit wit--I think you meant "have". But then, you don't have much. Sense, or clues.
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