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pshaw
Joined: 24 Apr 1996 Posts: 75 Location: Mill Valley
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bprice
Joined: 21 Oct 2000 Posts: 138
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:30 am Post subject: |
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SU"P" uses a paddle, right?
From the website...
The following vessels do not have to be registered in California:
• Vessels propelled solely by oars or paddles.
• Nonmotorized sailboats that are eight feet or less in length.
• Nonmotorized surfboards propelled by a sail and with a mast that the operator must hold upright.
• A ship’s lifeboat (a dinghy is not a lifeboat).
• Vessels currently and lawfully numbered (registered) by another state that are principally used outside California.
• Vessels brought into California for racing purposes only (exempted only during races and tune-ups). |
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dvCali
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1314
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Thinking of buying a SUP? From mid June its $100/yr |
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I wonder where stokereport.com/rant got the information (including the VERY unlikely statement from the governor, and the $500/year registration for SUP longer than 12'). A quick search on google does not bring up anything. The DMV page referenced above states:
The following vessels do not have to be registered in California:
Vessels propelled solely by oars or paddles.
Nonmotorized sailboats that are eight feet or less in length.
Nonmotorized surfboards propelled by a sail and with a mast that the operator must hold upright.
So remember: don't drop your mast in the water or you will be charged a registration fee |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Exemptions include
The following vessels do not have to be registered in California:
Vessels propelled solely by oars or paddles. [SUPs]
Nonmotorized sailboats that are eight feet or less in length [many WSers, some SUPs].
Nonmotorized surfboards propelled by a sail and with a mast that the operator must hold upright [WSers, WindSUPs].
OTOH, under "What's it cost?", we find this (never mind the formatting; the point is the asinine compexity of it all):
Vessel related registration fees.
Type of Transaction
Fee
Original Application (except for nonresidents)–Submitted in an even-numbered year [they're kidding, I presume].
$29
Original Application (except for nonresidents)–Submitted in an odd-numbered year.
$49
Penalty–for fees due in an even-numbered year.
$15
Penalty–for fees due in an odd-numbered year.
$25
Nonresident Application–Fees due in an even-numbered year.
$57
Nonresident Application–Fees due in an odd-numbered year.
$77
Nonresident Application penalty–Fees due in an even-numbered year.
$24
Nonresident Application penalty–Fees due in an odd-numbered year.
$29
Alternative Fuel/Technology Original Vessel-Fees due in an even-numbered year.
$10
Alternative Fuel/Technology Original Vessel-Fees due in an odd-numbered year.
$20
Alternative Fuel/Technology Original Registration Fee Penalty Vessel-Fees due in an even-numbered year.
$5
Alternative Fuel/Technology Original Registration Fee Penalty Vessel-Fees due in an odd-numbered year.
$10
Duplicate
$15
Renewal (biennially)
$20
Renewal (biennially)–Penalty
$10
Repossession
$15
Transfer
$15
Transfer–Penalty
$8
Transfer on Death Beneficiary (TOD) [a death tax on an old WS/SUP? Agai, they have to be kidding.]
$10
Historical Vessel [many of us have several of those] Plaque
$20
My head just reels at this. I have dozens of boards, use as many of them as possible, and buy and/or sell many each year. But if I take even just ONE to Kahlyphornya to play in ANY body of water from the Pacific Ocean to my uncle's farm pond, I must register it first, thusly:
How Do I Register My Vessel?
The documents required to register and title a new vessel or a vessel being registered for the first time are:
Application for Vessel Certificate of Number (BOAT 101).
Proof of ownership, such as the out-of-state title in the applicant's name or properly endorsed for transfer and signed by the applicant. A bill of sale is acceptable in lieu of the seller's signature on the title,
OR
The original or certified copy of a conditional sales contract or security interest showing the purchaser's name and any lienholder and marked "paid" and countersigned,
OR
A bond for the vessel value if proof of ownership cannot be provided and the vessel's value is $2,000 or more.
NOTE: If your vessel is located at an address other than your residence address, you must show the vessel location on the application.
You may register your vessel at any DMV office or mail your registration application (Boat 101) to:
Department of Motor Vehicles
P.O. Box 942869
Sacramento, CA 94269-0001
NOTE: The vessel trailer must also be registered and is separate from the vessel registration. The trailer is no longer required to be registered annually.
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pshaw
Joined: 24 Apr 1996 Posts: 75 Location: Mill Valley
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:03 pm Post subject: Is a SUP powered solely by a paddle? |
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Vessels powered solely by oars or paddles are exempt. I suppose you could make that argument and not get a permit. Still, I think it is likely that there will be challenges since to a ranger/life guard, or park official a SUP is just a surf board that is over eight feet and can be paddled by hand or a paddle. They already enforce PFD requirements for SUP users but not surfers. |
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Arrgh
Joined: 05 May 1998 Posts: 864 Location: Rio
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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This law once again will only hurt the poor. Big government at its worst. |
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kevinkan
Joined: 07 Jun 2001 Posts: 1661 Location: San Francisco
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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kevinkan wrote: | Did someone from The Onion write is? |
I tend to think you are right Kevin. But why? |
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ctuna
Joined: 27 Jun 1995 Posts: 1125 Location: Santa Cruz Ca
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:19 pm Post subject: Now I must cancel plans to motorize my boards. |
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Now I must cancel plans to motorize my boards.
Bad News for
http://wavejet.com/ ?
Early April Fools joke |
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