myiW Current Conditions and Forecasts Community Forums Windsurfing Videos Buy and Sell Services
 
Hi guest · myAccount · Log in
 SearchSearch   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   RegisterRegister 
Windsurfing vs Kitesurfing
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    iWindsurf Community Forum Index -> Windsurfing Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
outhaul



Joined: 27 Sep 2011
Posts: 180

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Windsurfing: If it was easy, they'd call it kiteboarding.


It's not all that easy, I've tried.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
arnegahmig



Joined: 27 Nov 2013
Posts: 9
Location: El Médano

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
arnegahmig wrote:
As a windsurfer you have to get an additional board which takes a lot of dedicetion to the sport

Every WSer I know has several or even many boards, some idiots as many as two dozen ... that they actually use. Sad


For windsurfing in the water, sure. But I was referring to windsurfing in snow Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
nw30



Joined: 21 Dec 2008
Posts: 1706
Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

outhaul wrote:
nw30 wrote:
Windsurfing: If it was easy, they'd call it kiteboarding.


It's not all that easy, I've tried.

Think learning curve, how many times did you try kiting, and how long did it take you to master windsurfing (assuming you have)?
IMO, kiting can be mastered in about 1/4 the amount of time, less strength and endurance needed also.

_________________
I don't drink the 'cool' aid, I drink tequila, it's more honest.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
AndreiA



Joined: 14 Apr 2013
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Nice article, thank you! Reply with quote

Good summary, especially around safety. Interesting to note, people who just observe (but not practice the sport) would often say that windsurfing is more dangerous than kite surfing. Smile
Andrei
na-windsurfing.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jamieinnyc



Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 99

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree that your essay was a very pleasant surprise in its balance - I don't often find balanced information/opinions on the web. It's a very timely discussion for me - I have windsurfed for 30 years, but over the holidays in TCI took several kiting lessons and got up on a board for the first time (and upwind!). Not an easy transition from windsurfing - the board is very different in feel, and the bar is not a boom. Anyway, off to Cabarete for 4 days next week to try to build some momentum.

Why kite for me? The same reason you gave - but with very different numbers (reflecting the reality of the conditions I sail in). I want to kite when I can't get going on a longboard and a 10M sail. I want to kite on a SUP, even - in 7knots. And also, I want to travel with gear - and my windsurfing gear doesn't fly. And of course, I want to know the sensation. There remain 2 major issues for me with kiting, though. I am deeply skeptical on the safety issue - I just don't think the sports are even close in terms of safety. And kiting doesn't give me that confidence (yet, maybe someday?) to be free of the shoreline and really go for miles, which I sometimes do on my windsurfer.

Anyway, thanks for the thoughtful and informative essay (hadn't considered the cost of wear on gear, for instance). For my part, I'm very much looking forward to learning to kite well enough to offer some more informed opinions - and to rip it up on the water.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
Posts: 14168

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My knee surgeon told me he had driven to Hood River to evaluate the prospect of taking up kiteboarding. Watching a kiter slam into several cars cured him of that silly notion, and subsequent surgeries he's done trying to repair crushed kiter pelvises, femurs, etc. buried that idea for good. I just told him that if he ever considers it again, to Google up "kitemares".
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
outhaul



Joined: 27 Sep 2011
Posts: 180

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamieinnyc wrote:
I have to agree that your essay was a very pleasant surprise in its balance - I don't often find balanced information/opinions on the web. It's a very timely discussion for me - I have windsurfed for 30 years, but over the holidays in TCI took several kiting lessons and got up on a board for the first time (and upwind!). Not an easy transition from windsurfing - the board is very different in feel, and the bar is not a boom. Anyway, off to Cabarete for 4 days next week to try to build some momentum.

Why kite for me? The same reason you gave - but with very different numbers (reflecting the reality of the conditions I sail in). I want to kite when I can't get going on a longboard and a 10M sail. I want to kite on a SUP, even - in 7knots. And also, I want to travel with gear - and my windsurfing gear doesn't fly. And of course, I want to know the sensation. There remain 2 major issues for me with kiting, though. I am deeply skeptical on the safety issue - I just don't think the sports are even close in terms of safety. And kiting doesn't give me that confidence (yet, maybe someday?) to be free of the shoreline and really go for miles, which I sometimes do on my windsurfer.

Anyway, thanks for the thoughtful and informative essay (hadn't considered the cost of wear on gear, for instance). For my part, I'm very much looking forward to learning to kite well enough to offer some more informed opinions - and to rip it up on the water.


Hey Jamie,

Tell us about your latest Kiteboarding experiences, Very curious on how you are doing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jamieinnyc



Joined: 26 Apr 2010
Posts: 99

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, don't know if this is the right forum, but I guess in the interest of a windsurfer's perspective...

Kited for three days in Cabarete, 2.5 hour/day. I got up and going, and could stay upwind. I was surprised how long it took for me to get it - "sitting" on the kite, not standing on the board. I actually think that having windsurfing experience may make it harder to learn - no muscle memory matches. Could only do 2.5 hours a day because first 2 days I was wiped out, legs like jelly after trying to force that locked in windsurfing feeling. The third day it clicked, legs felt fine (because they really don't have to work that hard), but had a harness that was badly bruising my ribs (still sore a week later). It was windy at 25 knots, and Cabarete gets a little nuts when its windy, with many dozens of kites in a limited area. Had 2 line wraps, one that I flew free, and one that was a safety release and swim in. Yes, different from windsurfing for sure, no heading out to sea.

But.. the power in the kite is pretty stunning. It was definitely not the conditions I am most interested in exploring kiting for, and I would have had more fun on a windsurfer, but at this point that means nothing. Hey, if I can keep a kite in the air in 7knots (or even less, ideally), and get a board (any board) moving, it will be way faster than windsurfing. Many kiters would say "why?" in those conditions, but so would many windsurfers - the extreme sport disease (must always be extreme).

A quick Cabarete note: used PayPal for hotel, took US$ for kiting, and only used my credit card for DR Pesos at the bank branch (Banco BHD) right in the center of town. I didn't use plastic anywhere else, paid cash for everything. Someone in the bank stole the card info and withdrew $5k before my bank shut the card down. So, even being cautious in DR is not enough - you may get jacked anyway. Just thought I would share.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
stevenbard



Joined: 11 Nov 1993
Posts: 4117

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

outhaul wrote:
nw30 wrote:
Windsurfing: If it was easy, they'd call it kiteboarding.


It's not all that easy, I've tried.


As in any sport, it takes years to reach the pinnacle. However, I was going back and forth on a kite by my 3rd day on the water. It took me a year back in the 1980 to figure out how to water start a windsurfer. Of course there were no teachers or internet back then. Laughing

I haven't kited in ten years, however kiting does appeal as an old mans sport. Windsurfing has taken its toll on my body. South Padre Island may be a stop I'll make to relearn kiting someday.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
outhaul



Joined: 27 Sep 2011
Posts: 180

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamie, I haven't used for kiting but maybe consider trying the Dakine harness shorts, very comfortable and defiantly won't ride up and hurt your ribs. For me it makes the "sitting" part much easier and I believe I get better mast foot pressure when sailing strapless on my windsup. It's marketed as a kiting harness but works great for windsurfing —you'll probably need to get longer harness lines as the hook rides a good bit lower than any waist harness.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    iWindsurf Community Forum Index -> Windsurfing Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Page 2 of 6

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum

myiW | Weather | Community | Membership | Support | Log in
like us on facebook
© Copyright 1999-2007 WeatherFlow, Inc Contact Us Ad Marketplace

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group