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iceratz@comcast.net



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay dry...go ICESAILING! Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpJMhDyjjac

Last year was not so great, but another season is coming and I got reports of sailable ice already!
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isobars



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now THAT makes sense. It's easy to stay dry and safe at any rational temps when liquid water is not a threat. I've enjoyed extended skiing, snow boarding, and dirt biking without a coat with both air and surface temps at well below zero F, but I'll be damned if I'll get in any icewater again even if the air's in the 60s and I'm overheated in a 6mm dry suit.
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justall



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iceratz wrote:
Stay dry...go ICESAILING!


That does look pretty awesome! Your under-ice footage from last year was really cool, too. But, oh man solid h2o is so much harder in a crash.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amarie wrote:
I get more and more wimpy every year. I'm not sure how to stop this backslide. My #1 limiting factor is my hands. I've tried all sorts of gloves and mittens. It has not yet stopped me from sailing, but my cold weather sessions have gotten shorter over the years. We don't get all that many days here below the 100 degree rule--maybe several per month during winter. But once the air temp hits the 40s my hands are in trouble. I did start bringing a small cooler filled with hot water so I can dip my hands afterward and regain enough flexibility to derig.

My body stays warm enough in a 5/3. On the coldest days (30s here, with high 50s water) I wear a thin fleece under my wetsuit. I'm experimenting with making a neck warmer made from a cut piece of thigh from and old wetsuit. It hasn't gotten cold enough here to try it yet.


The thin fleece rash guards can be layered under your full suit for added wind blocking and warmth. Just like you'd layer up to go skiing or snowskating. I use up to 4 thin fleeces. 2 short sleeve and 2 long sleeve if the temps call for it. Flexibility goes down only slightly.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justall wrote:
solid h2o is so much harder in a crash.

actually your momentum in a crash is more sideways, you tend to slide rather than auger
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This makes me want to slap a mast base on my snowboard.
http://vimeo.com/20479724

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btbill



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Below 100....?! Luckily here on the OBX, we will be back in the 70 deg air range this weekend with strong S wind for a few days! Water in the 50s east side, and 60s down south side. Back to 4/3m clean! Very Happy

Weekend before Christmas, if you have the shopping/tasks done early, perhaps its time for a weekend Hatty run for some warmth and wind?!

Bonus, bridge open too (though do you drive fast to get across asap, or slow to have breaking time if a section ahead falls out?!) Very Happy
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toodave



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember a spring day at Chapin many years ago when everything was 40....air temp, water temp, and wind speed. You couldn't pay me enough to do that now....
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justall



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btbill wrote:
Below 100....?! Luckily here on the OBX, we will be back in the 70 deg air range this weekend with strong S wind for a few days! Water in the 50s east side, and 60s down south side. Back to 4/3m clean! Very Happy

Weekend before Christmas, if you have the shopping/tasks done early, perhaps its time for a weekend Hatty run for some warmth and wind? Very Happy


That's not a bad idea.
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boardsurfr



Joined: 23 Aug 2001
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get the right gear and get used to it. Winter offers some of the best windsurfing of the year. Yesterday in Kalmus was a great example. I was hot the entire time on the water. Used open-palm mitts with a double nylon Ianovated suit, 5 mm boots with 0.5 mm hydroskin socks, a thin neoprene cap that I took off after a while, and a thin neoprene layer (shorts and short-sleeved shirt) underneath that was overkill in 42ºF air temperature. Great flat water fun!

The forecast for this weekend looks great, but with air temps being so much warmer than the water, decoupling could be an issue. Just might have to visit Skaket if that happens.



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