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U2U2U2
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wynsurfer
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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I feel much safer in the water than on the highway. |
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summertime
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thanks for the info u2 and keycocker. interesting. the recent attacks have changed my decisions a bit in regards to where and when and what i do in the water. staying closer to other people vs wandering far off alone on a sup, swimming in the water way closer to shore in water too shallow for a big shark, the one windsurf day i got in so far- rigged big for more assurance i could water start fast and get in if the wind died. if the frequency of attacks in maui goes back to the old norm - i'll be more comfortable. but the numbers have gone up so dramatically the last couple yrs.- something is up. |
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whitevan01
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 607
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:08 am Post subject: |
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taken from the article U2^3 linked to:
"There have been just 152 reported fatalities since records began in 1580. By comparison, there have been twice as many deaths from alligators in the U.S. than by sharks. Man's best friend is even more deadly. Dogs are responsible for more than 200 human fatalities in the last decade alone, while the everyday bee kills an average of 500 people worldwide annually."
Forget sharks, I personally don't like dogs, and there is good reason for that as the statistic in that article shows. (I was attacked by the neighbors' "friendly" dog as a young person, and no, I didn't provoke the dog, I was just trying to walk home from the school bus.) |
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milldo
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a link to the new Hawaii Shark Tracking project website:
http://oos.soest.hawaii.edu/pacioos/projects/sharks/
Several of these sharks appear to enjoy hanging out around Maui as much as windsurfers do - especially the Kihei area. I'm not pointing fingers, but Shark 133371 was visiting the north shore of Maui that week - however apparently not on the day of the incident Oct. 31st. |
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cbknap
Joined: 03 Jun 1997 Posts: 373
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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That tiger shark tracking site is fairly chilling. And that just shows the ones they tagged. Fairly clear that any time they want to give us a bite, they can.
Sail fast! |
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keycocker
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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We can't see in the water but the divers can.
They say there are nearly always sharks under us while we sail.
I hope the recent increase is just the clustering effect you always get with random data. If you look at completely random data it looks like groups.
Three shark bites in one week ,then none for three years equals an average of one a year. |
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scottwerden
Joined: 11 Jul 1999 Posts: 302
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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whitevan01 wrote: |
Forget sharks, I personally don't like dogs, and there is good reason for that as the statistic in that article shows. (I was attacked by the neighbors' "friendly" dog as a young person, and no, I didn't provoke the dog, I was just trying to walk home from the school bus.) |
No alligators in Maui, so not worried about those. Dogs - you might be right given the popularity of pit bulls, but at least you can see them coming and can whack it with something. Sharks - you have no idea where they are lurking. And you are in their medium where they have the distinct advantage. Bees - ah no, don't think I am worried. Jelly fish, yes. Bees, no. |
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whitevan01
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 607
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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agree that you can't see sharks or jelly fish coming.
but, let's see - over 200 human fatalities in last 10 years due to dogs, 152 reported human fatalities in last 433 years due to sharks.
that means, 20 human deaths due to dogs per year, .35 human fatalities due to sharks per year.
having said that, I also agree that I'm more worried about sharks. at least I can steer clear of dogs and the humans that they pull around. |
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shreddbob
Joined: 31 Mar 1987 Posts: 361 Location: Hawaii
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