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Riptide
Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 411
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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victor wrote: | is this really an issue?
from what i gather the incidents happened in april. i was there in may and again in august for two weeks each time and di not hear a peep about it.
it all sounds like what happens at every launch, a self appointed beach master saying 'they'll shut this place down............" |
This Maui situation is now at the Governors office in Hawaii.
The Coast Guard came out with a Safety bulletin this past April because of all the knucklehead BS, windsurfers, SUP, Kite boarders and Kayakers have been up too in the San Francisco Bay area.
I take offense of your reference to quote you " self appointed beach master "
I am a volunteer site steward for the San Francisco Board Sailing Association under there supervision and approval.
And if you do not like the way I do it, volunteer and give me a break.
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xander.arch
Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 217
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm on Maui now. This is my third trip in four years and it looks to me like the kiters are getting much more aggressive. Yesterday at Kanaha I saw two separate (and very dangerous) incidents with kiters trying to aggressively short jibe onto a wave right in front of a windsurfer who had clear priority.
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madmax7
Joined: 07 Mar 1997 Posts: 561 Location: So Calif
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry Xander but stay on point
Right of way crap has been discussed on forums since th beg of time
This is about collaborating or getting banned
Cheers Max
PS. I go there at least 2 times a year, don't know what that's got to do w it! Other than if banned I'm gonna have to sell my time shares!
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SWE106
Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 264 Location: San Mateo
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:08 am Post subject: |
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signed. free and safe access for all, regardless of situation. always respect swimmers, always keep safe distance, always be humble, always be respectful, never be bullied, always stand up for yourself and justice, 'cause when good men do nothing evil will triumph....
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TheItalianJobber
Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 121
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:21 am Post subject: |
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ALERT update:
"Mr Ed Underwood from DLNR-DOBOR just confirmed that the State is moving forward and preparing to install three sets of swim zone buoys at Kanaha Beach. These buoys will designate the expanded zones that will exclude all vessels and watercraft. This includes; kites, canoes, windsurfers, surfers, SUP etc. The expanded zone includes about three thousand five hundred (3500) feet of shoreline that will become a exclusive swim only zones. This represents a huge increase over the currently used areas. Now any vessel or craft that attempts to enter or cross these expanded zones will be subject to increased enforcement which includes; fines and possible confiscation of equipment. The DLNR has already built the buoys and plans to install them.
Immediate action is needed defer the installation of these buoys, until a better management plan can be reached.
Concerned people should contact the authorities to try to persuade then to defer the buoy installation, and amend the management plan."
http://www.change.org/petitions/state-dobor-hawaii-please-protect-ocean-access-at-kanaha-beach-change-the-outdated-rules-to-reflect-the-current-use
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TheItalianJobber
Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 121
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Is there a way to escalate this to the national (or global) forum?
Or make it "sticky" for a while?
There's no trace of this thread at
http://www.iwindsurf.com/index.iws or
http://www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=1
I would think that this is a matter relevant to the whole WS community worldwide...
((MODERATOR: bip, Announcement made on the main Windsurfing forum!))
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rigatoni
Joined: 25 Feb 1999 Posts: 498
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Despite my best efforts, I cannot quite ascertain how this impacts WINDSURFING access at Kanaha. Is there a map or diagram that is out there that could help us get more informed about the issue? If this is about restricting kite access in places that are designated swimming areas, what is the problem with that?
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Riptide
Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 411
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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rigatoni wrote: | Despite my best efforts, I cannot quite ascertain how this impacts WINDSURFING access at Kanaha. Is there a map or diagram that is out there that could help us get more informed about the issue? If this is about restricting kite access in places that are designated swimming areas, what is the problem with that? |
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The swim zone prohibits, windsurfing too !
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chophop
Joined: 16 Apr 1996 Posts: 230
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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So where at Kanaha will windsurf launching now be allowed?
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shredley
Joined: 22 Apr 2002 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'd ask all windsurfers and friends to please sign because the current windsurf launches and school areas will be primarily affected and the kite area as well to a lesser extent. Ironically this was all caused by a conflict in the kite zone that did not involve windsurfing.
Attached is an image showing the swim zones that are currently on the books and might be marked off limits according to kiteforum. It's hard to see but they are shown in dashed black lines around kaa point and 2 more upwind in the current windsurf launch areas. This is not my image I'm just reposting because the petition is so hard to understand.
Having said all that in the worst case scenario it looks to me like you would still be able to sail kanaha although the launch might be restrictive, and perhaps the worst effect might be to the schools and learners. I'm not a local only sailed it a little so it's hard for me to tell exactly.
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