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MalibuGuru
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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youwindsurf wrote: | stevenbard wrote: | The hypocrisy, arrogance, and incompetence is monumental. |
I agree, and I ain't talkin' 'bout the Dems or Obama. |
Hey Towelie, lighten up on the crack pipe. |
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uwindsurf
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 968 Location: Classified
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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stevenbard wrote: | youwindsurf wrote: | stevenbard wrote: | The hypocrisy, arrogance, and incompetence is monumental. |
I agree, and I ain't talkin' 'bout the Dems or Obama. |
Hey Towelie, lighten up on the crack pipe. |
Love you too Steven. |
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MalibuGuru
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I was talking to "Towelie", not you...
PS, Obama hires Jeff Zients from Bain Capital to fix the website after $600 million down the drain. Yes Romney's company. |
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pueno
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2807
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:28 am Post subject: |
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stevenbard wrote: | pueno wrote: | stevenbard wrote: | They could have paid monkeys to write this thing. |
They could have, but they're already employed at Fox News.
Roger gives 'em free bananas.
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Ha ha ha, hmm, This system is so broken, they're going to have to spend another $600 million just to get it to work. THEY HAD TESTS THAT FAILED PRIOR TO OPENING IT. NOW THEY WILL PROBABLY DELAY THE MANDATE! WTF? Didn't the R's want to delay it? Today Steny Hoyer said they could solve the problem with MORE MONEY!!! What an idiot. |
Evidently, the bananas captured your attention.
As always.
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uwindsurf
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 968 Location: Classified
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:13 am Post subject: |
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stevenbard wrote: | I was talking to "Towelie", not you... |
In the voice of Sheila Broflovski: "Oh Gerald that Steven is so smart and so funny. Oh, his pithy humor and wit is so precious. I just love him, I wish my son Kyle was just like him." |
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KGB-NP
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 2856
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Swchandler,
http://business.financialpost.com/2012/04/07/whats-my-tax-rate/
Does this article shed some light on my position? Perhaps the American tax plan has somehow become twisted, but ours has not followed that path yet.
My experience first hand with myself and others has been that some will carefully watch their income does not push them into the next tax bracket.
Personally I have had employees turn down raises or opt for working less at an increased rate of pay to avoid crossing the threshold to the next tax bracket. My sister used to work as a head hunter. The salary was commision based and most of the staff were high earners. They would intentionally stop at the threshold points to avoid the higher taxation rate because it litterally meant working for free after that threshold. Her employer would left with the results of that with many turning down searches and this reflected on the companies bottom line. I would rather give someone a raise for their efforts and not them or I be penalised in the process.
Perhap your system works differently than ours. I actually do pay what the charts indicate with a slight advantage due to being self employed.
I know that with that the left never make mistakes but this is what they did with some of my tax money:
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/08/oakville-gas-plant-cancellation-cost-11-billion
Don't worry, I realise that the right wing nuts make mistakes too. |
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uwindsurf
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 968 Location: Classified
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:22 am Post subject: |
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What you perceive to be a penalty, I perceive to be the price of living in a society. If your employees choose to earn less to be taxed less so be it. That is a choice they can make as a result of the society in which we live.
What's your point? There should be no taxes? That the tax structure should be changed? |
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KGB-NP
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 2856
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Did I say there should be no taxes?
My point is the structure plus the threshold points reduce the incentive to a) make more and b) cross those thresholds. Can you understand that possibility because it is a observable fact? In some cases it can work out to working for free. My accountant and I had an interesting conversation about this fact and it's implications, I'm sure he knows more about it than I do. He went to college to learn how to help and dislike old rich white men while becoming one in the process like many here.
I understand the moral obligation of welfare but I have to ask do rich people utilize infrastructure on a personal basis 30 - 40% more than lower income earners?
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KGB-NP
Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 2856
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:14 am Post subject: |
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BTW: that last question was what my accountant asked. He claims to be a liberal. |
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pueno
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2807
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:41 am Post subject: |
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reinerehlers wrote: | ...to avoid the higher taxation rate because it litterally meant working for free after that threshold... |
reinerehlers wrote: | In some cases it can work out to working for free. |
God forbid that anybody should ever work for free. Or donate to a charity.
What's this world coming to?
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