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pueno



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keycocker wrote:

He will endlessly do it no matter how foolish it makes him look, perhaps just to keep pueno amused
LOL

But, since he can't read my posts, he'll never know, will he? Laughing
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/14/earth-gains-a-record-amount-of-sea-ice-in-2013-earth-has-gained-19000-manhattans-of-sea-ice-since-this-date-last-year-the-largest-increase-on-record/

More stuff that makes Gore look crazy.
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mac



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard--you are trying to be as funny as NW.

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ClimateDepot.com is the website of Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow employee Marc Morano, a conservative global warming denier who previously served as environmental communications director for a vocal political denier of climate change, Republican Sen. James Inhofe. Launched in spring 2009, Climate Depot claimed it would be "the Senate EPW website on steroids," and "the most comprehensive information center on climate news and the related issues of environment and energy."[1]


Batshit crazy. Credible? Not on your life.
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nw30



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac, the hysterical source slammer,,,,,, who's funny?

Be sure to jump on the sources as fast as you can, or we might think you're loosing your touch. LOL!!!

It's like whack-a-mole!

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GURGLETROUSERS



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't wish to get involved again, but oh dear!

Regardless of shooting the messenger, the Mail on Sunday ran a critical two page spread detailing the conclusions of the latest leaked IPCC report, and castigated it for the questions (in some cases evidence) it ignores, or fails to answer.

The allegations are that the computer models (they admit so) have all been fundamentally flawed (the Met Office in particular) and that they have NO clear answer to the (admitted by them) 'pause' in warming, and that their future warming predictions have had to be at least halved over anything they previously claimed.

(computer - will continue.)
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GURGLETROUSERS



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the IPCC's reports own authors, professer Myles Allen, the director of Oxford University's Climate Research Centre, stated that 'this should be the last IPCC assessment.' He accuses the cumbersome production process of 'misrepresenting how science works!' (From the horses mouth!)

The paper contacted Judith Curry (outspoken climatologist) for her comments on their article. She ststed,'the report shows the science is in a STATE OF FLUX!'

Quite so !!
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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprise me sometime Bard and use a credible source.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.space.com/19131-sun-solar-space-weather-2013.html

Solar activity at 100 year low. Scientists worried that we may be entering a new ice age...
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nw30



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
http://www.space.com/19131-sun-solar-space-weather-2013.html

Solar activity at 100 year low. Scientists worried that we may be entering a new ice age...


Sorry Steven, but I'm sure that the teach hates that source as well. Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW and Bard--solar flares and solar activity are not the same thing as climate change or CO2 build-up in the earth's atmosphere. The level of solar activity has to do with how much energy is radiated, or more particularly, how much things like solar flares could affect transmissions.

Increased CO2 has to do with how the earth responds to the energy/heat that reaches the planet's atmosphere. If the low point in solar activity corresponded to less energy (I doubt that it matters significantly) it could explain the flattening of the temperature curve. As such, it then might be seen as further evidence for climate change. I'm sure you wouldn't have posted it if you thought that!

In terms of the physics--these are separate cycles that operate independently. Teasing out long term trends requires factoring them out without prejudicing the value of the data that you do have.

Credible source, wrong interpretation. Better than a flame though.
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