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kevinkan



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For now, please refrain from driving on the dirt road like I did in my blog post:

http://www.sunsetsailboards.com/blog/81-treasure-island-access

It appears that this is a big concern of the residents who live there, and we don't want them complaining to the Navy.

1235 North Point Drive is vacant, so we should be able to park in front of that building or in any of the visitor parking spaces of the adjacent buildings. Please don't part in the assigned parking spaces of the occupied buildings, or we're really going to piss the locals off.

There's a google map linked of the blog post that shows the location of everything.

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kevinkan



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It apperas that 1231, 1233, and 1235 N. Point Drive are all vacant. We need to minimize our impact on the residents who live near the launch and rigging area, so please park your cars in front of 1231 and 1233, and also access the rigging area b/w 1233 and 1235 N. Point Drive. These are two vacant buildings. We should not be parking and rigging our gear near occupied buildings or else we are going to lose our access to the boat ramp launch.

There is a map here:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=105045082424443100566.0004670e723d4cfacb1a7&ll=37.829853,-122.371581&spn=0.010474,0.022745&t=h&z=16

Also, please drive extra slowly through the neighborhood. There are lots of kids at play, and we do not want to give the current residents any reason to complain about us.

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rigatoni



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin,

How many cars can park for those three vacant buildings? Seems pretty limited. If those spots fill up, is the alternative to drop you gear off and then park at the end of the dirt road?
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koogzah



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fear this will end badly...
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mac



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope everyone will chill a little bit and take advantage of this. A few things to keep in mind: first, the land is still under the control of the military, and we don't have any strong claim of use rights until it transfers to the city. Second, for a change, the Navy is trying to work with us, and the city is cooperating, as they said they would when they asked us not to slow down the clean-up. Third, there is physical access--there are grassy areas where you can drop your gear for rigging and launching at the ramp. If you are willing to rig your gear and then move your car, there is a lot of parking within walking distance.

If we antagonize the residents, who pay rent to the City, they could have the Navy seal up the fence lines, or enforce parking restrictions. So please, realize that we can be there as well-behaving guests, perhaps years before we would otherwise have legal rights to use it for access. This is one of the best windsurfing places in the country, and even if access isn't as good as it used to be, it is back!
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bipbip



Joined: 09 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine that there's not being any major change to this situation, is that correct?
I scouted the area yesterday AM, but didn't find any easier/more comfortable access.
Any new issue to be aware of?
Thanks.
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tomg



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No news is good news! At a past (April I think) Navy community meeting, the Navy rep. did not deny the possibility (typical cagy government double negative) of demolishing the buildings in the area where we launch. They would only do this if they needed to get to contamination located under the foundations (much of the area behind the buildings has already been excavated).

So the parking and rigging will stay as-is and, yes, leaves much to be desired. Once on the water the launch is unmatched.

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bipbip



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomg wrote:
So the parking and rigging will stay as-is and, yes, leaves much to be desired. Once on the water the launch is unmatched.

Thank you Tomg for the feedback.
Need to drag my lazy, middle-aged ass over there. Will try to do it when there's people and learn from the (more) locals
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airwave



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Navy will get busy when this does.
http://sftreasureisland.org/index.aspx?page=6

Also, have a look at the map at the bottom of this page:
http://sftreasureisland.org/index.aspx?page=396

The best thing we could do to keep T.I. open is to teach our grandchildren to windsurf, so that when they are in there 50ties and 60ties they will be interested in being sure the launch gets upgraded.
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tomg



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the City of SF has a pretty redevelopment plan for the Island. SFBA commented on the environmental documents to ensure access out at the north east side (location of current launch). But I think the pace of Navy base closure/transfer is a reflection of the real estate market and economy. in other words if there was strong pressure to redevelop, the transfer would kick into high gear. And I thought we might see a shift when recently Governor Brown made a trip to China and there was a story in the Chron about the Chinese Railroad authority backing the redevelopment. Apparently that fell through.

My concern is keeping some sort of access to the cove during [years of] construction, not necessarily the finished product (which is shown as a park in the renderings). Because if they started today, like many of my TI sailing friends, I
will be long retired from the sport by the time it's finished!
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