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cgoudie1



Joined: 10 Apr 2006
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Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are killing me, bwahahaha. The Come Along is several
magnitudes above silly, and the ultimate limit to yvanboniec's
design attempts.

Here's an idea, why not just design the sail to have adequate
perimeter tension without much outhaul, then the sail can just
have a hook that you loop over the boom for stability. If you
take some cloth (maybe a tarp from the local hardware store)
and cut it in a triangle, stitched a loop along
one end for a mast that doesn't bend, you could develop
a sail that rigs very quick, and could be rolled up around the mast,
for easy stowage, and for a quick rigging. I bet you could be on the
water in a couple of minutes.

-Craig

inf2003 wrote:
I guess everyones right about being creative. That being said yvanboniec's ideas and thread have inspired me to further expand upon and improve his new invention. The problems I see are being able to adjust outhaul on the water and loss of the mechanical advantage. I think my new invention (with parts available at a local hardware store) may solve those two problems. What do yall think?
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yvanboniec



Joined: 08 Mar 2012
Posts: 100

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To inf2003, I thought of that too as I was visiting the local hardware store (I think we are a bit like Batman and Robin in your country), as there are no windsurfing shops here, only hardware stores. But the device is too large.

After a month spending 10 minutes trying to figure out how to rig the boom end under scorching heat (and even if I managed to do 4 loops, I was never quite sure the lines were in the righ holes), I did it my way and my way is straight into the boom end.

I originally started with a hook (I considered using a spring) until I came accross the shackle.

Needless to say the DIY store employees where a bit dumbfounded when they saw me walking in the store with my sail


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isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
Posts: 20935

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spend more time at the gym or windsurfing, and we can outhaul without hardware. I increase or decrease outhaul offshore fairly often ... with the standard 4:1 loop setup. Outhauls aren't supposed to be TIGHT on many recreational sails.
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norcom



Joined: 16 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see a zipper on the luff next, for even quicker rigging. Pix plz. Laughing
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isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From http://www.xs35cat.com/r33/en/designers/
comes
"Multi-Sail Windsurfing Sails

From 1980 to 1997, Reynolds was a dedicated windsurfer and windsurf sailmaker. In 1986 Reynolds invented the [zippered] Multi-Sail System for windsurfing sails. In 1988 he created Multi-Sail International Inc. to promote and sell his patented system.

With the slow down of the windsurf market Reynolds stopped making windsurfing sails in 1998. With years of windsurf sailmaking experience, Reynolds learned new ways to build sails over that of traditional sailmakers. Windsurf sailmakers were breaking new barriers in the construction and design of light and heavy wind sails.

Windsurfing sails, considered the fastest soft sails on the water today, allows Reynolds to apply this knowledge to conventional sailboat sails and rigs. "

They were very good sails.
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wynsurfer



Joined: 24 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isobars, thanks for the trip down memory lane! I was very tempted to buy one of those sails. Kind of wish I had.

Did you ever own one? Or maybe I should say three, since one sail covered three sizes.
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isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Own", no, but I tested them for Performance Windsurf Magazine for a few seasons. They were excellent sails, and the zipper weight was not noticeable. The primary drawback was that a quick rigger could just rig another sail in roughly the time it took to re-size the Multisail, and then he had two sails rigged, ready to plug'n'play when the first size became appropriate again. They were an excellent choice for a minimalist, a guy on a tight budget, or someone whose WSing van is a motorcycle. For gear hogs with a car or van, throwing more money at the problem was a more practical solution.
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norcom



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I've seen the multisail zipper version BUT it's not the zipper on a luff. Which is what I recommend the OP does next. Wink

A Multisail was just on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windsurfing-Sail-6-0-6-7-Multisail-/330959169757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0eb428dd&nma=true&si=XGN7mBTT6Nz8Sh8tTDA03MT9XjM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Would have been cool to try one.



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westender



Joined: 02 Aug 2007
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Location: Portland / Gorge

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yvan, I have an interest in your sailing. You live in the UAE??

From one of your posts you mention sailing in a Speed Ditch, or constructed lake.

That is so much different than our conditions in Hood River,, it's hard to imagine.

Could you post some pictures of your sailing beaches??

Good luck with the gear.

Cool
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yvanboniec



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:24 am    Post subject: Borat Award Reply with quote

To all my fans in the middle east and around the world,

I screwed a cleat at the top of the boom end.

There is no way I am going to do 4 loops.

I just need to pull the line though the hole to rig in one second.

I am now the first to sail while everyone else is still rigging on the beach.

I was planning to add some tape to protect my jaw when I jibe until I realised I did not know how to jibe. So I did not put tape on the other screw.



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