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beaglebuddy
Joined: 10 Feb 2012 Posts: 1120
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:34 pm Post subject: Giving up jibing, for now |
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I'm an intermediate at best, planing in the footstraps now. When I was underpowered jibes weren't a problem but now at higher speeds jibes are probably 90% unsuccessful and the mast always falls on the wrong side so it's exhausting continuously swimming the rig around to waterstart.
I can tack with a high completion rate going one direction so I'm considering just sticking with the tack for now and deal with the carve jibe later. I'll get more sailing than flailing in and at least I'll stay upwind. Maybe I can learn a planing tack.
How does this strategy sound?
I'm 100KG and my boards are an Exocet windsup and a 2002 SB free formula 198L, two boards that probably don't jibe well, although when the wind/sail is just right I can plane and reliably make a stomp jibe on the windsup. |
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coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3550
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like you might be flipping the sail way too late.
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manuel
Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 1158
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hang in there, jibing is very difficult because it requires both advanced board steering and sail handling skills.
I would still try them once in a while and especially when you spot smooth waters ahead of you. Flat waters will increase your chances because you won't have to work so hard to balance on the board and can concentrate more on sail handling.
Maybe, you can back up that rear hand a little to depower the sail and make the transition a little easier. Try them when you really feel comfortable and not so tired.
I often get frustrated with the sport but it's what motivates me to get better and work harder. It's so rewarding when everything works out just right! |
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outcast
Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 2724
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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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There is a foolproof jibe that never fails. Same as you would do on a longboard in light wind. You tip the mast back at the critical point and that brings the nose around, you sail out of the turn clew first, planing or not, then flip the sail when you can.
You keep wind in the sail all the time so you have something to hang on to and control the board. I think the trick is tilting the mast to the stern and that will bring the nose of the board around through the stall zone. YMMV good luck. |
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KevinDo
Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 426 Location: Cabrillo Inside
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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coachg wrote: | Sounds like you might be flipping the sail way too late.
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I agree or maybe when he is doing the shaka or grabbing the mast he isn't letting his arm be straight? (pulling the mast the windward?)
-Kevin |
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windward1
Joined: 18 Jun 2000 Posts: 1400
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Jibing is way overrated. Just fall in an waterstart going the other way.
I have been sailing ninety years and still can't jibe.
What are you looking at? |
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adywind
Joined: 08 Jan 2012 Posts: 665
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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You need to sheet in until its time to flip the sail, otherwise the board gets out of control in higher speeds. One tip that tremendously helped me to stay sheeted in after unhooking during the entry stage was to look back at the boards wake . It's cool feeling and helps with the sheeting in. After that its easier to work on the next stages and later you won't even need to do it anymore. Giving up is the easiest thing to do , try this tip first. |
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KevinDo
Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 426 Location: Cabrillo Inside
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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OH forgot to say the only thing, well two things, that helped me learn how to plane thru my gybes was to shoot downward and enter the gybe fast (basically outrunning the wind I guess) AND not leaning back but forward into the carve. Also I flipped the sail when it starting pulling on my back hand pretty hard (Ok maybe three things)
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beaglebuddy
Joined: 10 Feb 2012 Posts: 1120
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies and the advise.
I know my jibe is all messed up, I've watched the Cribby and Jem Hall DVD's over and over and my sailing spot is a very short reach so I've had plenty of practice blowing my jibes. I'm a bit burnt out on it.
The thing is I didn't want to make the post about how to jibe but more about tacking and the wisdom of giving up on the jibe for a while and working on the tack which seems to be a lot easier.
If one is completely proficient I suppose a tack is a bit more work running around the front of the board and all. What's everyone's opinion on tacking? |
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