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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its OK with you guys I'm going to hit the water too.
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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
If its OK with you guys I'm going to hit the water too.


No! Since you are a few years younger than most of us, you should be working to pay for our future benefits...while we sail.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pointster wrote:
why haven't we already seen the effects of the increased money supply? Where's the inflation? Why hasn't the dollar plummeted? The FED has been doing quantitative easing for years, how does Burnaham explain the delayed effect?

That knee-high stack of books, countless economists on real news and financial networks, and the biggest names in the investment world have discussed your question ad infinitum. The catch: it takes time to follow it all. The answers run for pages and chapters, but the consensus is fairly consistent: very deep global "doo doo" (a quote from the head of Charles Schwab) is due within two years, many expecting it this calendar year. The remaining points of contention are just when and whether it's preceded by deflation. The primary naysayer is that Krugman idiot, the same fool who for months in 2002 implored Greenspan to create a housing bubble to replace the NASDAQ bubble (NYT, Aug 2, 2002).

How'd that work out for him ... and us?
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pointster



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
pointster wrote:
why haven't we already seen the effects of the increased money supply? Where's the inflation? Why hasn't the dollar plummeted? The FED has been doing quantitative easing for years, how does Burnaham explain the delayed effect?

That knee-high stack of books, countless economists on real news and financial networks, and the biggest names in the investment world have discussed your question ad infinitum. The catch: it takes time to follow it all. The answers run for pages and chapters, but the consensus is fairly consistent: very deep global "doo doo" (a quote from the head of Charles Schwab) is due within two years, many expecting it this calendar year. The remaining points of contention are just when and whether it's preceded by deflation. The primary naysayer is that Krugman idiot, the same fool who for months in 2002 implored Greenspan to create a housing bubble to replace the NASDAQ bubble (NYT, Aug 2, 2002).

How'd that work out for him ... and us?


The above is a non-answer referencing un-named authors of un-cited works.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going to type a bibliography out for you. You're not handicapped, the books fill whole shelves of the bookstore, I've listed many of the most famous print and broadcast sources here many times -- one in just the previous post and cited in detail a couple of months ago -- and they're all OVER honest news and financial news networks, WSJ, Barron's, IBD, Forbes, Blumberg, and MANY such financial print, radio, and TV media almost daily. You don't want to hear about the threat and its evidence even though Bernanke admits it, because it makes Your Guy (and every other president since the 70s) look bad. The penalty, if they're right again, will be decimation of your life's savings. Ignore at your own peril.
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feuser



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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
I'm not going to type a bibliography out for you. You're not handicapped, the books fill whole shelves of the bookstore, I've listed many of the most famous print and broadcast sources here many times -- one in just the previous post and cited in detail a couple of months ago -- and they're all OVER honest news and financial news networks, WSJ, Barron's, IBD, Forbes, Blumberg, and MANY such financial print, radio, and TV media almost daily. You don't want to hear about the threat and its evidence even though Bernanke admits it, because it makes Your Guy (and every other president since the 70s) look bad. The penalty, if they're right again, will be decimation of your life's savings. Ignore at your own peril.


"Trust me, the evidence is right over there! On the book shelf!"

You could not make this shit up, if you tried. Anyone considering joining Mickeys panic party? Perhaps buy Gold - or start hoarding canned food?

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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How dumb are we???

So now we find out that the entire Tsarnaev family (Dad, Mom, 2 sons & 2
daughters) started receiving government assistance as soon as they set foot in our country. As political refugees they were entitled to settlement
assistance from day one. (Section 8 Housing, public healthcare, food stamps etc.)
Then their stellar older son impregnates and marries the daughter of a
doctor, and this new Muslim family receives 18 months of government assistance. They only came off welfare after the naive young wife starts working 70 hours a week while husband Tamerlan stays home and builds bombs and plans to kill and injure the very Americans who have paid for his pathetic existence for the past 12 plus years.

A Breakdown of your and my investment into the TsarnaevFamily:
Section 8 housing
Free public healthcare
Food stamps and other EFT transfer payments
Federal Pell Grants for both sons and most likely their daughters as well.
(That is $5200.00 per year for each son or daughter who attended a college.)
City of Cambridge also awarded a $2500 per year scholarship to the younger son.
Younger son also reportedly was receiving state college scholarship.

What did we receive for our investment:
* Older son was arrested for domestic battery on a former girlfriend.
* The mother was arrested last year for shoplifting $1600 in
merchandise from a Lord & Taylor store. Mother is facing immediate arrest
for failure to appear regarding this matter.
* Then of course we know that the two sons combined to kill four
people (3 Americans & a Chinese exchange student), severely injure 100 plus other people, carjacked another victim and only let him live when they found out that he was not an American citizen.
* Now we have the two pathetic parents who have returned to Russia
and are claiming that their poor sons are innocent and are being framed by the same American government that allowed for their pathetic existence the past 12 plus years.

When are we going to put a stop to this madness??

PS. Did I mention that they are prime suspects in the murder of 3 Jewish men? They slit their throats on Sept 11.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:

How dumb are we???

...blah, blah, blah...

When are we going to put a stop to this madness??


You appear to think yourself a smart and wise person.

How would YOU "put a stop to this madness" in a fair, equitable, and humane way?

Not "we," but YOU. How would YOU make that decision?


stevenbard wrote:
Did I mention that they are prime suspects in the murder of 3 Jewish men? They slit their throats on Sept 11.

Did they really slit those throats? Are "they" guilty until proven innocent?
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isobars



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
How dumb are we???

So now we find out ...

We who watch Fox News learned that (except the prior triple murder of their own martial arts trainer and companions) before the second bomber was caught ... just as most of BenghaziGate has been all over Fox since Sept 12.

If ya aren't watching Fox News, ya may as well just watch Jay Carney or get your news directly from the Obamaprompters.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey wrote:
stevenbard wrote:
How dumb are we???

So now we find out ...

We who watch Fox News....


And so now we know just how dumb you are.

But, no surprises on that front.

. . . . Laughing . . . . . Laughing . . . . ..Laughing

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