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pueno



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fick-shun wrote:
Did any of you even see Beck's rallies? Totally peaceful, with almost zero trash left behind.

Of course there was little trash left behind, Mikey.

They went home.

And lobotomized zombies do tend to be peaceful.


swchandler wrote:
Nothing could be farther from the truth, and isobars proves it regularly. A nut case is more like it.

Be kind to our friend. He's disabled, you know.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Now McVeigh might have been welcome at a Beck rally. Funny how you guys don't admit your supporters can be wacko's.
McVeigh is a hero to many right wingers to this day. So are the church shooters, doctor shooters, anthrax mailers to many right wingers. So are Nazis, skin heads, KKK members....

The right wing party welcomes these people and encourages their hate of americans.

Where the loonies of the left, we found a home for them in the green party, I am glad there is a green party for them to be a part of vs the dem party. we do not condone their actions privately or publicly and none are heros to us. and we do not welcome their votes. where right wingers welcome the racists among them...

remember right winger tea party member Sharon Angle in Nevada after she said to the effect if we do not win at the elections we need to take up second amendment rights and attack americans. She then went on the fast track in raising money to try to defeat Reid which she almost did with her hate words. After saying that money poured into Nevada from the right wing hate supporters from all across america. She hated government yet she lives on a government pension now and government that supported her and her family her entire adult life her husband worked for the forest service. She was one of those wackos that the government was poising us with fluoride was her earlier causes.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be a little more explicit, Bard has evoked the principle of "guilt by association," which is not part of the American structure of jurisprudence. Common citations which overrule laws prohibiting guilt by association rely on the First Amendment. Here's a simple explanation and citation:

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Is there such a thing as ‘guilt by association’?

Simply attending peaceful meetings of an organization will not make a person guilty, even if other members of that organization commit lawless acts. Guilt can be shared only if the organization and its members have a common plan to break the law.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/faq/frequently-asked-questions-assembly

So, by associating with known bigots on the far right of the Republican Party, you can avoid being "guilty" by association. But by not criticizing such language (for example Beagle-bigots name calling of Obama) you make your status as a fellow traveler clear.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Golden-Gate-Park-pot-party-a-major-mess-4451852.php

Hey Baja, those idiot conservatives are at it again...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Not only are those guys rabid leftists, Tsarnaev (Boston Bomber) friends all came out that he "was a normal guy, who smoked pot and supported Obama".

I saw the interviews live.... On CNN.

Just look at the most hated consevative, Glenn Beck. Do you ever see those kinds of guys at his rallys? Sorry, you don't. Those guys are all confessed radical leftists. More likely, you'd see the guy with red hair, or the islamists getting beat up at a Glenn Beck rally.


did not see him supporting Obama, and as far as that goes the day after he blew up the bombs his friend told him how terrible the bombing was and he told his friend to the effect he also thought it was horrible. So you are the only one who believes what he says.

also please note for the second time, you are obviously not capable of understanding things, but his brother the mastermind and right wing wacko who believed in all parts of his live to use violence to solve problems, a true right winger. Well his brother was against him smoking Pot, and the mastermind was a religious right wing fanatic who did not smoke Pot.

Note you also posted Nazi type propaganda BIG LIE on this thread, that you have not been able to support as fact. I have asked you to support your Tim McVeigh support type propaganda and you have not. You do realize that you hate america for which it stands. Ever hear of truth justice the american way, i thought not, you just support lies lies and more lies. You believe in a right, not a human right of bearing false witness. Do you realize that even by the religious right that this is a sin breaking of a commandment.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Golden-Gate-Park-pot-party-a-major-mess-4451852.php

Hey Baja, those idiot conservatives are at it again...
I never said liberals are perfect. But to show the difference is my speeding ticket analogy... while a liberal may go 5 mph over the limit, right wingers are drunken killers. How many DUIs did bush really have or Cheney? Was Cheney drunk when he shot someone in the face when he was VP.

Lets look at right wingers, Ted Bundy serial mass murderer. no liberal counterpart. Tm McVeigh, church shooters. ever listen to the Nixon tapes as he was paying off people illegally and planning to sabatoge his opponents and so on, now that was a real criminal of the nastiest kind, and again he is a hero to the right wing.

Right wing loves the vote of KKK, neo Nazis, skin heads racists all a part of the right wing party.

So if the best you have some people smoking pot had a big party without a permit as a protest wow.... as I said a 5 mph speeding ticket in order. but encouraging and embracing terrorists and racists, well no thanks yyou can keep them.

Did you know there was a poll in a southern state about gay marriage and at the same time they also asked about inter racial marriage and almost 45% of the right wing believes interracial marriage should be a jail-able offense. This is not a question should it be allowed, this is should it be illegal... IE go to jail for it. again almost 45% of the conservatives in that state appear to me to be racists. So no wonder all your right wing leaders want racists to be in the right wing party.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first Baja's posting astonished me, but here it is:

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Benjy Sarlin-March 12, 2012, 10:06 AM36442
Alabama and Mississippi Republicans are evenly divided on whether President Obama is Muslim and are still working out their feelings on the legality of interracial marriage, according to new numbers by Democratic pollster PPP. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are currently locked in a close battle in the two states, which hold primaries this week.

Asked whether Obama is Christian or Muslim, some 45 percent of Alabama Republican respondents picked Muslim; 14 percent correctly identified him as Christian. Another 41 percent said they were unsure. In Mississippi, a majority of Republicans, 52 percent, identified Obama as Muslim; 12 percent said he was Christian and 36 percent were undecided.

Interracial marriage laws were overturned by the Supreme Court in 1967, but a significant minority of Mississippi and Alabama apparently still long for their return, or are at least ambivalent about the idea. In Alabama, 67 percent of respondents said interracial marriage should be allowed, but 21 percent said it should be illegal and another 12 percent were not sure. Mississippi Republican voters were even more divided: Only 52 percent said such marriages should be legal, versus 29 percent who said they should be banned and 17 percent who were unsure.
The poll surveyed 656 likely Republican voters in Mississippi and 600 likely Republican primary voters in Alabama on March 10-11.


Along with this endorsement of science:

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Data from both states shows that significant portions of right-leaning voters do not believe in the validity of either interracial marriage or evolution.


Of course the Supreme Court outlawed prohibitions against interracial marriage in 1967. Wait--I woke up from the 60's--and it hasn't changed much in the South.

Is it a coincidence that this happens in the "Bible belt?" I think not, the American Taliban is strong. And the enablers and fellow travelers common. Screeching from the right that those of us who notice racism are the racists--yet did any of the righties on the forum object to Beagle-Bigot's "Obongo" slur? Not a one.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and another poll that I was citing...

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/08/46-percent-of-mississippi-republicans-want-interracial-marriage/?__hstc=223762052.b1e791770973b04f02722bd0d3f3bc46.1366747623394.1366747623394.1366747623394.1&__hssc=223762052.3.1366747623394
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A new poll gauging Mississippi Republicans' preferences going into the 2012 election ended up revealing something more startling: 46 percent of GOP voters in the state think interracial marriage should be illegal.

Results were announced Thursday by Public Policy Polling, a polling firm based in North Carolina. The company asked 400 Republican primary voters about their preferences for candidates for state and national offices, as well as their views on interracial marriage.

A whopping 46 percent of likely GOP primary voters said they think interracial marriage should be illegal, while only 40 percent said they think it should be allowed. Another 14 percent said they were unsure.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now we are in LA LAA LAND. We might as well pick up our crack pipes and start smoking. Obama according to the Muslim religion will always be a muslim. He can never convert according to them. So.....take a puff guys, maybe some of those stupid red-necks got it right. However, is he a Christian? Who knows. Only he knows, so citing that survey is like smoking crack for your health. It only hurts your argument.
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slinky



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard, get your facts straight, Obama was raised by his mother as a christian. His father had little or nothing to do with his upbringing.
There is no evidence to support your claim. If you feel there is please, let us know, we are all ears.
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