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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rigitrite wrote:
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Yes, I get disability benefits.
(and a pension no less!)

Yet you can windsurf??? And do other (self-described) rigorous life-style feats??? So really, you're the problem you despise! Sucking off the government teat while being fully capable of pulling your own weight. So, if I have this right: personal responsibility for everyone else.....socialism for you.

There ya go again, spouting Pueno's clueless, false talking points. So you think all there is to life is windsurfing? Even that is significantly impaired, and there are MANY things you can do that I cannot because of the disabilities I'm paying myself for. "Other rigorous feats?" I see guys in the gym every day minus limbs or in wheelchairs, and have many friends with (or dead from) cancer directly caused by Agent Orange in Viet Nam.

Let's face it; anyone who says people who signed a blank check good for anything up to and including their very lives upon joining the military (or police or firefighter services) and stick it out for a career don't deserve their contracted benefits is one sick POS leech sucking literally life's blood out of millions of your countrymen. That is even lower than Adam Lanza's actions, because while he was clearly not in charge of his faculties, you ostensibly are ... even though Pueno does your thinking for you.

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rigitrite



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that bulging vein in your forehead pops......I ain't cleanin' it up.

If Pueno does my thinking for me, then I wear it as a badge of HONOR!!! Pueno fights for truth, justice, and the American way!!! He also has the strength of 10 men, minty fresh breath, and would never sail with a roller bar, because no one good sails with a roller bar.

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techno900



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pueno said:
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Here's the point, Mr. Fick-shun. You shake your right fist at everyone for accepting stuff from Obama while you yourself accept cash from Obama with your left hand.

And while you're grabbing that cash from Obama, you're dumping a boatload of hate on the man.

Says much more about you than about us or Mr. Obama.


It would be helpful if you could explain why military disability benefits received by iso, long before Obama was thinking politics is "accepting stuff/cash from Obama". I guess when you are old enough for Medicare or social security, you too can join the rest of us sucking off the government teat. Or you could take a strong liberal stance and reject the teats. Almost all of us received/receive benefits from our employers, be it government or private, and I doubt that you would reject any that you are receiving, so it would be wonderful if your nauseating, repetitive sour puss claims about iso's disability would go away. I would bet that 99% of the posters here, including the left would be happier.

And by the way, it's not Obama's money. It's mine and those that actually pay income tax.


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pueno



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey wrote:

There ya go again, spouting Pueno's clueless, false talking points...

...even though Pueno does your thinking for you.

And all along, you said you couldn't, wouldn't, and didn't read my posts.

I didn't know that the VA offered disability for chronic lying.

Mikey, you are one funny clown.



techno900 wrote:

It would be helpful if you could explain why military disability benefits received by iso, long before Obama was thinking politics is "accepting stuff/cash from Obama". I guess when you are old enough for Medicare or social security, you too can join the rest of us sucking off the government teat. Or you could take a strong liberal stance and reject the teats. Almost all of us received/receive benefits from our employers, be it government or private, and I doubt that you would reject any that you are receiving, so it would be wonderful if your nauseating, repetitive sour puss claims about iso's disability would go away. I would bet that 99% of the posters here, including the left would be happier.

And by the way, it's not Obama's money. It's mine and those that actually pay income tax.

Because Mikey and the rabid righties never miss an opportunity to blame Obama for some perceived injustice foisted on taxpayers as a failing by him or his administration, regardless of how foolish, stupid, or shortsighted the complaint is. For example: The sad and unfortunate Benghazi incident. Another example: rising fuel prices (do you really think Obama's out there with a stick pushing those gas prices up?).

So, it's fun to needle Mikey about his disability and retirement benefits, which are no different fundamentally than what many taxpaying Americans deserves. Mikey, like so many righties, rail against that type of largesse as "unfair, unearned entitlements."

Your point also illustrative of how Obama is often blamed for "unfair entitlements" that were started long before him... for example, "Obama phones," which actually are part of a program started by REAGAN.
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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
nw30 wrote:
boggsman1 wrote:
NW...I see you started your day with a dosage of Drudge, good work. The question isn't if we will see more insurance costs, the question is will we(the US) be spending/paying more for healthcare overall. I think not. As Michael Milken says, health and healthcare is the #1 economic issue in this country, and if people have access to health care, they will make better economic choices, be healthier, and more productive. So, the net result could be quite positive. But, I dont want to rain on your negative parade....so carry on.

Thank you, I will.
What, do you go to the Drudge Report every morning?
You a closet conservative? Kidding!!!!!
I know you trust Michael Milken, good for you.

Of course everyone's rates have been going up, ever heard of front loading? Why would the Ins. Co's. be front loading?
Just maybe they know what's coming.

http://www.washingtonguardian.com/study-health-overhaul-raise-claims-cost-32-pct-1

I spend 5 minutes on the Drudge Report every morning..Then when I encounter one of the mindless arguments from the right...like yours.. I already know its coming. Its like stealing a sign from a teammate on second base.
Great example of Drudge's work today is the headline of .4% growth in the 4th quarter. Today is the last trading day of the 1st quarter, a quarter which probably saw the economy grow at 2.7%. BUT, Drudge is informing his minions that the economy grew at .4%. Throw in Dr. Doom's prediction, a picture of some guy in a bank line in Cyprus...and its no wonder that you guys are terminally negative.

At least you look, but why, if you think that everything there is total BS?
Yikes, people like you with blinders on kinda scare me, but at least you peek, maybe it's a deep conscious thing?
He can't have the #1 news website online for nothing, right?

NW -please. I look the same way i look at traffic accidents, or the national enquirerer. Using you Drudge is the no 1 website logic would also make American idol the best TV show.
Look- I know you're a good dude...we both enjoy windsurfing the waves of the great California Coast. I just want to see you expand your horizons a little bit.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
It would be helpful if you could explain why military disability benefits received by iso, long before Obama was thinking politics is "accepting stuff/cash from Obama".

And by the way, it's not Obama's money. It's mine and those that actually pay income tax.

No, it is not. Why is it so impossible for people to understand that I pay my own disability benefits? Google concurrent compensation; it's simple arithmetic: each dollar I get for VA disability is subtracted from my USAF pension.

Besides, does no one here realize that military personnel pay the same taxes everyone else does? The bits and pieces of exemptions therefrom are slight.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rigitrite wrote:
If Pueno does my thinking for me, then I wear it as a badge of HONOR!!! Pueno fights for truth, justice, and the American way!!! He also has the strength of 10 men, minty fresh breath, and would never sail with a roller bar, because no one good sails with a roller bar.

Are you stupid enough to think I'm that stupid? Your president is.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fick-shun wrote:

Are you stupid enough to think I'm that stupid? Your president is.

Mikey, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that your brain is a few threads short of a Whitworth screw.

"Your president is."

Our president..... let's see, he spent some quality time at a college prep school, Occidental College, Columbia, and then Harvard Law. And after that, he taught constitutional law for twelve years at University of Chicago Law School.

So, yes, that guy is probably nowhere near as smart, well educated, or well paid as............. you, for example.

And that Nobel Prize he won........... phittt.... It means nothing compared to your top secret work.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Google concurrent compensation; it's simple arithmetic: each dollar I get for VA disability is subtracted from my USAF pension."


Where does it say that in the following? From what I can tell CRDP, allows a retired veteran with better than 50% disability to receive both their military retirement and veteran disability payments. While there appears to be a phase-in of CRDP that started in 2004, it will be complete by 2014. What seems to be missing at the website, is the part where VA disability payments are subtracted from the USAF retirement pension.

http://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/crdp.html

What I think most of us want to know is the medical basis for isobars' service related veteran disability payments. What is his disability, and how was it directly caused by his government employment? You know, he never really talks about that, and probably for good reason, because if the truth was known, it would reveal that he has scammed the government like so many of the folks that he denigrates here regularly.

Lastly, why does isobars repeatedly bring up the topic about folks here complaining about disability payments to military combat veterans, police and fire fighters. Nobody, and I mean nobody, has done that. Why does isobars pull out this contrived shroud when he is pressed about his disability and its legitimacy? It wreaks of phoniness and dishonesty. It's total nonsense, and no one is fooled by it.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:

What I think most of us want to know is the medical basis for isobars' service related veteran disability payments. What is his disability, and how was it directly caused by his government employment? You know, he never really talks about that, and probably for good reason, because if the truth was known, it would reveal that he has scammed the government like so many of the folks that he denigrates here regularly.

I don't want to know Mikey's medical issue -- it's private, even if it's a deception.

I just want him to stop the hypocritical rabid rightie BS about how the whole world but him is the GIMMEEE generation, crooked, lazy, scamming, cheating fat slobs and that Obama is feeding them.

Mikey's the one who's taking with both hands and talking with both mouths.
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