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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

capetonian wrote:
doctors are so afraid of the lawyers that they order unnecessary tests to confirm what they already know by reviewing the patients history and doing a physical exam.

The flip side to that is the increasing number of doctors who won't give patients squat besides a couple of quick questions, a simple lab test, and drugs ... even when the patient inquires about other tests to justify the drugs. This isn't the thread for that, but my recent experiences with two cardiologists will expose that and related problems in a more relevant thread shortly.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop the presses--a cardiologist found a heart? Was it shared with Dick Cheney?

Mo--we need a cartoon here.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An exclusive iso expose' shortly! Breathless!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"He has a rare medical condition. He makes other people sick"
-- Oberon in "Shakespeare in Hollywood"


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh oh, another riveting tale of isobars unhappy experiences with VA doctors. From past tales, we all know about isobars' woes and his impending death from prostate cancer, but is he now at the cliff's edge with heart disease too?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Colo Gov today will sign three gun control bills. Limiting mag to 15 rounds, requirement of background checks for private sales and require sellers to bear costs of background checks.

These laws are, likely, unenforceable. There is no registration of guns in the state. So, it would be very difficult to trace a transfer between private gun owners. And, it would be easy to head to Utah to sell a gun; or just claim that you did. The law requires one to use a gun dealer to do the background check. But, a gun dealer could refuse to do this for the $10 maximum fee. So, it would encourage folks to break the law.

The magazine limit is for new purchases only. If one owns a high capacity mag, he may keep it, but not transfer it. Again, how could a transfer be proven?

Score another for poorly written laws.

One thing that these laws do indicate is that public sentiment on gun control is shifting. But, they also illustrate the complications of effective gun control legislation.
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a useless bill. All a criminal has to do is go to Utah, and he has everything he needs for mayhem.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're working on an ammendment so that you can have concealed carry
without a permit (as long as you don't have a chambered round).
Everybody here carries a hog leg. ;*)

-Craig

p.s If we need dope, we just go over the border to Colorado

stevenbard wrote:
This is a useless bill. All a criminal has to do is go to Utah, and he has everything he needs for mayhem.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coboardhead wrote:
The Colo Gov today will sign three gun control bills. Limiting mag to 15 rounds, requirement of background checks for private sales and require sellers to bear costs of background checks.

Won't help this guy.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
We're working on an ammendment so that you can have concealed carry without a permit (as long as you don't have a chambered round).

How does one define a "chambered round" in a revolver?
And what good is a (semi-automatic) pistol for self-defense if you have to chamber a round first? If you're being assaulted, that extra time can easily get you killed.

Buncha knee-jerking, gotta-do-something, grandstanding, uninformed IDIOTS are behind the vast majority of these new gun bills. One legislator recently stated than an AR-15's kick is too severe for effective use in home defense. IDIOT! an AR-15 HAS almost no kick by careful design; that's one of its greatest features for a 100 pound housewife or for the young kid who saved his little sister's life with his dad's AR-15.

15 rounds limits a highly experienced police officer to defending himself and me from only three fully exposed assailants before having to reload. Home invasions, like one in a nearby town recently, often involve several animals.

We have gun laws out the wazoo which, if most mass shooters had obeyed, would have prevented their acts. Many of the new gun law proposals have been proven ineffective, many more are suicidal. It's mostly about zealots, the uninformed, vote-pandering grandstanding, people too cowardly to defend their families, people who think a cop 15 minutes away is going to save them, etc.
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