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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keycocker wrote:
I just read that Mr. Paul senior, the gold bug, has 66% of his portfolio in gold company stocks which have tanked. The analysis puts him down 24% in a stock market that just set a new high.


Maybe the other 33% is in Google! However, "it ain't over until it's over"...And I'm no gold bug.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psssssst, don't tell anybody, but while a bunch of 6th graders are begging BHO not to cancel their White House tour,
http://politicker.com/2013/03/iowa-sixth-graders-beg-white-house-not-to-cancel-their-tour-due-to-sequester/
The feds are hiring, go figure, but you should already know, closing the tours is nothing but theater, childish theater.
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Feds keep hiring with sequesters in place: 400 jobs posted on first day back

The sequester cuts are now officially in place, but many government agencies appear to be hiring freely anyway.

The U.S. Forest Service on Monday posted help-wanted ads for a few good men and women to work as “recreation aides” this summer, the Internal Revenue Service advertised for an office secretary in Maryland, the U.S. Mint wanted 24 people to help press coins, and the Agriculture Department said it needs three “insect production workers” to help grow bollworms in Phoenix.

Monday marked the first regular workday under sequestration, and federal agencies posted more than 400 job ads by 6 p.m.

At a time when nearly all of those agencies are contemplating furloughs, the help-wanted ads raised questions about how agencies should decide between saving through attrition or letting people go.

“Every position you don’t fill that isn’t absolutely necessary is one less person that needs to be furloughed,” said Steve Ellis, vice president at Taxpayers for Common Sense — though he said some positions that people leave need to be filled in order to meet agencies’ core missions.

Part of the problem is it’s often unclear exactly what those core missions are, said Paul C. Light, a professor at New York University who has studied government organization extensively.

“When you say mission critical, it’s a phrase without meaning,” he said. “Everything’s mission critical. Therefore, we have no way of knowing what would be mission critical in a job description versus what is not.”

He said agencies become “very artful” in writing job descriptions to justify why they are hiring.

At the Homeland Security Department, which just days ago announced it was releasing some low-priority illegal immigrants from jails to await removal, the agency in charge of deportations advertised for an assistant to help with deportations.

The annual salary for the job is $60,765, enough to detain one immigrant for about 500 days.

An official at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the agency is filling only mission-critical positions and may not end up hiring for every job it advertises.

The sequesters — $85 billion in spending cuts — were set into motion by the 2011 debt deal and imposed across-the-board cuts to most federal agencies. Social Security was spared, and other big entitlements such as Medicare face only minor trims.

Homeland Security officials warned that they would have to furlough airport screeners, and the Defense Department has canceled deployment of a second aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf region to save money.

But the Obama administration also faces a decision about how painful it wants the cuts to be. Ahead of the sequesters, when the White House was still hoping for a deal, officials painted the most dire picture possible. Now that the cuts are a reality, the administration must grapple with the possible downside of cutting something critical while spending on something that voters might see as less important.

When it comes to furloughs, Mr. Light, the NYU professor, said it would make sense to use job appraisals to decide which employees to furlough — except that the appraisals aren’t particularly useful anymore.

He said it makes more sense to furlough senior managers and those near retirement, while keeping lower-level workers — those who are doing the enforcement or services such as air traffic controllers — on the job.

“What’s amazing to me about all this is you’ve got the furloughs going on in the agencies and they don’t seem to be linked to anything other than an across-the-board strategy,” Mr. Light said.

About a quarter of the job openings posted by Monday evening were in medical or public health, 67 were in management or clerical services, and another 21 were in information technology.

The Defense Department led the way with 123 jobs posted as of Monday evening, while the Department of Veterans Affairs was close behind with 119 jobs.

The Justice Department, which has issued furlough notices to 115,000 employees, had a handful of job openings, including one to hire “several” law librarians, with annual salaries up to $115,742, and another posting for a student intern to answer phone calls and sort documents for up to $18.97 an hour.

There was one opening for a professor at the Army War College in Pennsylvania, at a salary of up to $115,811 a year. A War College spokeswoman said the professor’s post was deemed critical for their academic mission.

The lowest-paying jobs were working at swimming pools, golf courses and bowling alleys on Army bases. Each of those began at the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.

An Army spokesman said those jobs are funded through fees paid to those facilities and don’t get taxpayer money.

But that explanation didn’t wash with some watchdogs.

“All money is fungible,” said John Hart, spokesman for Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican and Congress’s top waste-watcher. “Mobilizing our nation’s aircraft carriers seems to be a more pressing priority than mobilizing our nation’s taxpayer-funded bowling alleys. The administration’s refusal to set priorities continues to make a mockery of their doomsday predictions.”

Mr. Coburn last week called for the government to stop filling low-priority jobs, pointing out a number of openings such as a museum director and 10 new drivers for State Department cars.

The White House at first seemed cool to the idea, but then issued a memo urging offices to be careful about any hires they made. The White House budget office also warned against hiring outside contractors to try to make up for the lost work from federal employees.

The budget office didn’t return messages seeking comment Monday, nor did the U.S. Forest Service or the Army Corps of Engineers.

One decision agencies face is how to handle internships. A number of intern openings were posted Monday, with duties ranging from answering phones to taking part in intensive engineering programs.

The federal Office of Personnel Management said agencies are allowed to make all hiring decisions and furlough decisions and that includes hiring interns, which the office said “is still an important part of an agency meeting its mission.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/4/feds-keep-hiring-with-sequesters-in-place/#ixzz2MpcFicI8

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone remember the GOPs dire warnings about the sequesters bad effects esp. on defense?
Now that both parties allowed it to happen the GOP has focused on making it belong to the White House. Problem is that the bad effects come on slowly so that stigma would wear off quickly.
The GOP strategy now is to point out the White House dire predictions are not coming true fast enough, hoping their own dire predictions at an earlier time are forgotten.
Since the US Gov. Hires and fires so many people it is now news that a librarian got hired.
Why did the White House hire a librarian in the midst of a huge crisis caused by the WhiteHouse? Poor leadership, of course!!!!

Better question.When is the US Congress. going to stop playing politics and treating us like we are stupid, Mr. Coburn?
Both parties do this but I expect it from Dems. At one time the GOP actually represented a lot of aware people who found this stuff infantile.
Now folks like me have no party to represent us. Recent polls suggest that is true for a LOT of conservatives.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading what NW30 posted sends me a message. What's the value of a bunch of specious nonsense designed present a twisted picture? Hopefully folks can see through the smoke. The sequester appears to be an opportunity for the Republicans and their supporters to focus on drama. Kind of picking up on the strategy that President Obama is accused of, but done on a more teenage level.

You know what I want to know? Why didn't the Republicans in Congress craft and pass intelligent legislation that would have made the sequester's impact more sensible and efficient? I'm left with the opinion that Republicans are all show and no go. Just punk nonsense. Where's their creativity and leadership?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
Did it ever dawn on you that Obama is reading your posts and has an armed drone hovering over your home? On your way to the shooting range with your S & W 40 in hand, and boom, you're toast. After all you were a threat...

Yup ... that's the OTHER flip side. And I don't trust him enough to give him that power without case by case congressional approval, by which time all of us will be long dead anyway, of old age.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:

In an email obtained by POLITICO ... APHIS's budget office told him that was exactly what they'd already decided to do.

“We have gone on record with a notification to Congress and whoever else that ‘APHIS would eliminate assistance to producers in 24 states in managing wildlife damage to the aquaculture industry, unless they provide funding to cover the costs,’” the budget office said. “So, it is our opinion that however you manage that reduction, you need to make sure you are not contradicting what we said the impact would be."

Crystal clear translation for the liberally impaired: "Do whatever hurts the voters most, to ensure that Pelosi again rules the Senate."

My GOD, but our president is an ass.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISO FYI- Nancy Pelosi is NOT in the Senate. She is in the House of Representatives, thats where the Speaker of the House yields the gavel. Did you know that there is bacon in a BLT?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
Reading what NW30 posted sends me a message. What's the value of a bunch of specious nonsense designed present a twisted picture? Hopefully folks can see through the smoke. The sequester appears to be an opportunity for the Republicans and their supporters to focus on drama. Kind of picking up on the strategy that President Obama is accused of, but done on a more teenage level.

You know what I want to know? Why didn't the Republicans in Congress craft and pass intelligent legislation that would have made the sequester's impact more sensible and efficient? I'm left with the opinion that Republicans are all show and no go. Just punk nonsense. Where's their creativity and leadership?

Assuming that you believe that the dems are the smarter ones, BHO being the #1 dem, the repubs offered BHO complete control of how and where the cuts will be implemented. What POTUS wouldn't want that kind of power?
BHO turned it down with a threat to veto the offer, he doesn't want the responsibility, he doesn't want his name on any cuts, he's not a leader, he's a fulltime campaigner only, and a pussy.
What could be more creative than that, offering BHO some real leadership?
But BHO doesn't want it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
ISO FYI- Nancy Pelosi is NOT in the Senate. She is in the House of Representatives, thats where the Speaker of the House yields the gavel.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Are you saying that Mr. Fick-shun makes up fiction?

No, of course he doesn't. But Mr. Always-Right isn't always right, despite his self-image.
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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW--you are so laughable. The Republicans have had a year to suggest cuts. All they suggested was increases for the military and tax cuts. They want Obama to take all of the heat, while they take no responsibility.

As hater in chief, the only thing funnier than your protestations that you bear Obama no racial malice is mrgybe's flacking for the Catholic bishops. Apparently he doesn't understand that they engaged in a criminal conspiracy that makes them suspect in judging the morality of sexual behavior.
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