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jingebritsen



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pumping to a plane then adjusting the out haul to keep it going is an art. quite often, i could have my o/h really slack even going upwind in the lightest of breezes. the idea is to keep the o/h leads equalized in the corners to allow for better transitions and possible pumps on the next leg. nothing worse than having all your available lead all over on the opposite tack needed anyway.

know when to pump and knowing when to slog is a whole other matter. but, that's one of the major reasons i want to wave sail with long boards pretty much every time the wind is below 15 mph.....

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Years ago when I was using an AO I came up with this. Marine grade pulleys have FAR less resistance to other choices. And this attaches quite easily and quickly to the clew...


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

those look sweet, butt do NOT look like they slip on and off easily
THAT is the beauty of the puck
NOT all my sails require a puck and any alternative MUST be as easily added or removed Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joethewindsufa wrote:
those look sweet, butt do NOT look like they slip on and off easily
THAT is the beauty of the puck
NOT all my sails require a puck and any alternative MUST be as easily added or removed Sad


?? You clip the pulley to the clew and it locks on. Pretty simple. And it has far less resistance than the puck..
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scargo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's exactly my setup -- hence my comments above about lower friction, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a personall preference, i'd rather omit any extra hardware. if i had to add some, i would avoid any extra length to my boom. pic looks slick, but i would choose a different set up.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HORSEBISCUITS! There's hardly any friction on the puck, it's a bronze pulley on a stainless axel. Cheaper, simpler, faster to rig, why do anything else?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spennie wrote:
HORSEBISCUITS! There's hardly any friction on the puck, it's a bronze pulley on a stainless axel. Cheaper, simpler, faster to rig, why do anything else?


Wow, all horse biscuits aside. Do you really believe this??? If so, then I suggest you pull ALL the ball bearings out of everything you own since obviously there is hardly any friction......

I changed mine and there was an OBVIOUS difference.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No question that ball-bearing Harken or Ronstan blocks have less resistance. I've used both. Also, having used both, rigging the blocks with a bow shackle or snap shakle is actually faster. So the only legitimate argument is about boom length -- and I think both sides were quite reasonable above.
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