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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
Gotta chuckle. I called Fidelity to see whether they offer customers a means of guying gold in their portfolios, particularly their Roth IRAs. "We had to, due to popular demand. I'll connect you." <Click> "Fidelity Gold Group; how can I help you?" The chuckle came within one minute, on two counts:
1. "You put a communist in the White House, smart people are going to want gold, because they know the economy will go to hell." (I did correct him on that: "Well, Marxist /fascist tending towards socialist, unarguably, but not yet communist". He agreed.)
2. I knew Fidelity wouldn't talk like that, so I asked and he concurred that he is not a Fidelity employee, but instead an employee of the long-standing self-directed IRA management corporation Fidelity contracts for that purpose. He said their calls from Fidelity clients have boomed this week to the point they're not even taking Monday off..


You guys must have had a jolly good chuckle together - reënacting a scene straight from the 1950s... You're doing a great job as the military brass / razor sharp analyst who puts that civilian in his place. After all, who knows communism like you, who saved us ungrateful lot from having to learn Russian all these years? What a riot.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on subject (there sure is a lot of useless typing going on around here over just sniping at each other, geeeesh. Are you guys board or something? Or just unemployed?)

The latest, he had two women after him.
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Congress’ questions for Petraeus will have to wait

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have questions for former CIA Director David H. Petraeus about the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, his recently disclosed extramarital affair and other issues — but their queries will have to wait for a later date.
Acting CIA Director Michael Morrell will testify Thursday in closed-door hearings of the Senate and House intelligence committees instead of Mr. Petraeus, who resigned abruptly last week after admitting he had an extramarital affair.
Congressional leaders said they want to know when the FBI uncovered Mr. Petraeus’ affair with his biographer, Paula Broadwell, during its investigation of threatening emails to a woman close to the former CIA chief, whether national security was compromised, and why the FBI didn’t notify Congress sooner about the affair.
“The FBI has briefed me now. I actually wish we had been briefed a little bit earlier. … We received no advanced notice. It was like a lightning bolt,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein, California Democrat and chairwoman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told “Fox News Sunday.”
A senior U.S. military official identified the second woman as Jill Kelley, 37, who lives in Tampa, Fla., and serves as the State Department’s liaison to the military’s Joint Special Operations Command, where work on secret drone missions and other duties are performed, The Associated Press reported.
The military official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly, said Ms. Kelley received harassing emails from Mrs. Broadwell, which led the FBI to examine her email account and eventually discover her relationship with Mr. Petraeus.
A friend of Ms. Kelley and Mr. Petraeus, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity, also said the two saw each other often, but the nature of their friendship was unclear, AP reported.
Mr. Petraeus, who turned 60 on Wednesday, tendered his resignation Thursday to President Obama, and informed CIA employees of his action — and his affair — on Friday.
He resigned amid congressional scrutiny of the Obama administration’s response to the assault on the U.S. Consulate, in which U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed on the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.
Intelligence committee leaders will question Mr. Morrell and FBI Deputy Director Sean Joyce about Mr. Petraeus’ affair during meetings Wednesday, a day before the closed-door hearing at which Mr. Petraeus originally was scheduled to appear.
Congressional leaders indicated that they still might call on Mr. Petraeus to testify eventually.
“I would not rule out Gen. Petraeus being called to testify. That still could happen at some point in time,” Sen. Saxby Chambliss, Georgia Republican and vice chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said on ABC’s “This Week.”
“I don’t see how in the world you can find out what happened in Benghazi before, during and after the attack if Gen. Petraeus doesn’t testify,” Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican and a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
One former senior congressional staffer, who asked for anonymity because of the sensitivity of current employers, told The Washington Times that Mr. Petraeus would be “duty-bound” to testify, even as a private citizen.
“He is still subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. He could be asked to testify as a former senior official, and if he refuses — which I don’t think he would — he could be subpoenaed,” said the staffer, who is the director of a House subcommittee.
Mr. Chambliss said that, in the meantime, it is “fine” for Mr. Morrell to testify in Mr. Petraeus’ place at Thursday’s classified hearing, along with Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Matthew Olson, the head of the National Counterterrorism Center.
Mr. Morrell “certainly was there when all the decisions were made relative to Benghazi,” the senator said.
Mrs. Feinstein also ruled out any connection between Mr. Petraeus’ resignation and its postelection disclosure, and political fallout from the Benghazi incident. For several days after the attack, administration officials said it emerged from spontaneous protests, not terrorists.
There was “absolutely not” any connection to Benghazi, Mrs. Feinstein said. “And, I think if you really think this thing out, you will — everybody will come to that same conclusion.”
But Rep. Peter T. King, New York Republican and chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, told CNN’s “State of the Union” that the details leaked to the media so far do not makes sense to him.
“It seems this [investigation] has been going on for several months, and yet now it appears that they’re saying the FBI did not realize until Election Day that Gen. Petraeus was involved. It just doesn’t add up,” said Mr. King, who also is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. “I have real questions about this. I think the timeline has to be looked at.”
Mr. Petraeus has been married 38 years to Holly Petraeus, with whom he has two adult children, including a son who led an infantry platoon in Afghanistan as an Army lieutenant.
Mrs. Broadwell, a 40-year-old graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., and an Army Reserve officer, is married with two young sons.
Mrs. Broadwell has not responded to multiple emails and phone messages.
Attempts to reach Ms. Kelley were not immediately successful, AP reported.


Read more: Congress’ questions for Petraeus will have to wait - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/11/congress-questions-for-petraeus-will-have-to-wait/#ixzz2ByS4bjqu
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Are you guys board or something?

The correct word is BORED.

You should ask Herr Professor Doktor Fick to tutor you in the finer points of English composition, such as spelling. He is, after all, an award-winning, Nobel-worthy, world famous, self-professed, internationally recognized, self-important, speaker, teacher, writer, expert, inventor, and genius -- as he himself admits. Over and over.

Don't be dissuaded by his disability payments. He reluctantly accepts those payments just so he'll be viewed as a common person, a liberal. But don't be fooled. He really is the aristocracy, but if you ask nicely, he'll concede to instruction in the finer art of communication. He does it so much. And so well, as he so often tells us.


nw30 wrote:
Or just unemployed?

You seem to post a lot here.

Personally, I work M-F, 8-5 and sometimes Saturday mornings. I pay taxes, including payroll taxes. Last summer, when I was NOT employed, I did not take unemployment, though I could have. I didn't need it so didn't take it. (Is that good conservative thinking for you? I pay taxes but don't take the handout.)

You?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Petraeus, that sneaky bastard started not one but two affairs over the last few years in order to avoid or delay testifying about Benghazi?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another great indictment of the Rethugs media bubble..... from Politico:


In this reassuring conservative pocket universe, Rasmussen polls are gospel, the Benghazi controversy is worse than Watergate, “Fair and Balanced” isn’t just marketing and Dick Morris is a political seer.

Even this past weekend, days after a convincing Obama win, it wasn’t hard to find fringes of the right who are convinced he did so only because of mass voter fraud and mysteriously missing military ballots. Like a political version of “Thelma and Louise,” some far-right conservatives are in such denial that they’d just as soon keep on driving off the cliff than face up to a reality they’d rather not confront.

But if the Fox News-talk radio-Drudge Report axis is the most powerful force in the conservative cocoon, technology has rendered even those outlets as merely the most popular destinations in the choose-your-own-adventure news world in which consumers are more empowered than ever.

Facebook and Twitter feeds along with email in-boxes have taken the place of the old newspaper front page, except that the consumer is now entirely in charge of what he or she sees each day and can largely shut out dissenting voices. It’s the great irony of the Internet era: People have more access than ever to an array of viewpoints, but also the technological ability to screen out anything that doesn’t reinforce their views.

“The Internet amplifies talk radio and cable news, and provides distribution for other sources like Newsmax,” said Trey Grayson, 40, the former Kentucky secretary of state and the current head of Harvard’s Institute of Politics. “Then your friends, who usually agree with you, disseminate the same stories on Facebook and Twitter. And you assume that everyone agrees with you!”



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83704.html#ixzz2C1SBAuwd


Just a little FYI- The Pew Poll which is the best over time, had O at 50, Thurston Howell III at 47(no pun intended). the numbers are currently O 50.6, TH III 47.9.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
The latest, he had two women after him.

Ahhh, the perils of being a cute guy with a chest full of medals.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Clinton is out, with John "Europe is my role model" Kerry as the leading replacement likelihood.

Now it's an order of magnitude worse: Kerry's up for Sec of Defense.

WTH? ... Did Jane Fonda decline the job?

Don't give us that "Swiftboated" crap! In addition to endless interviews with those who served with him, I've heard live interviews with the Army doctor who treated Kerry's so-called "wounds". We've also all heard heard Kerry say the U.S. military members in general are murderous, torture people, and are stupid. Oh, he'll make a great SecDef, with high respect of those he commands, after having publicly disgraced the uniform and pilloried the men and women who wear it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.factcheck.org/republican-funded_group_attacks_kerrys_war_record.html
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only days after Iso ascribes marital infidelity (and most other sins that jump to mind) squarely to the left, Petraeus is a cute guy with a chest full of medals who just can't help being popular among women.

No surprise then that he, a retired USAF desk jockey himself, finds it okay to insult a decorated combat veteran.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
a cute guy with a chest full of medals.
Um...ok. That's a side of you I haven't seen before. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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