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bajaDean



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:

Bajadean simply clips and pastes volumes of crap from left wing websites, then sprinkles some of his own rambling sentences over it and shotguns it at us under the guise of self-authorship.

One cue is pretty obvious: the clips are normal grammar, but his sprinkles are undiagrammable and often indecipherable because he leaves out whole words and phrases. He says dyslexia, but that has more to do with spelling than lack of cohesion. Another obvious cue is the sheer quantity of nonsensical, random-topic, obscure references to people and events no one ever heard of. I am dead certain that I could enter most of what he posts into plagiarism detection programs and find whole pages of crap mindlessly clipped from sites generically labeled something like alt.leftyloons.R.us, which is as valid and relevant as alt.rightyloons.is.us. There's just no point reading, let alone reacting, to either.


troll report..... you are the classic definition of a troll.

You are just so wrong, how did you like the paper written by the armed forces college. Again the list I compiled of trust fund right wingers, is my list. Same with the corporations that own the media. And just look at the forbes list of top companies and trust fund kids. Forbes a trust fund kid himself is hardly liberal. Then the religious fanatics like rev moonie, pat robertson and so on owning the media is hardly from a liberal site and they are hardly liberal. the list of talk radio right wing hate talkers is hardly from a liberal source, the NAB is so right wing and the list that shows over 90% of the talk time is hard core hate radio. so what you do as a verified troll is not post any facts because these are indisputable and you cry about being a victim of the so called liberal media. then facts like the CIA and military infusion of the so called liberal media as a fact. Again over 400 members of the so called liberal media on the payroll of the CIA that were never fired. and as I point out would these CIA agents act as right wingers for their cover or as liberals?

again how is this liberal military source...

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A Study by the Industrial College of the Armed Forces Industry Studies 2001 stated the two following statements :
http://www.ndu.edu/icaf/industry/IS2001/newsmedia.htm

https://www.hsdl.org/?abstract&did=1656&advanced=advanced
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Industrial college of the Armeed Forces

ABSTRACT: The news media informs, challenges, questions, and aggravates. It affects the way we look at domestic and foreign policy and shapes our view of events and our ability to address the problems of the world. It is part of the national security structure of our country without being a formal part of the government.
Ms. WillieDell Bowman, National Imagery and Mapping Agency
Lt Col Godfred Demandante, USAF
LTC Mike DeYoung, USA
Mr. Bruce Flory, Dept. of the Navy
Ms. Mary Forte, National Security Agency
Col Ronnie Foxx, USA
CDR Jeff Gernand, USN
LTC Frank Higgins, USA
Lt Col Patty Hunt, USAF
LTC Mario Messen, Chilean Army
Lt Col Tedd Ogren, USAF
Col Dave Pointer, USA
Col Michael Spencer, USAF
Ms. Mary Thomas, Dept. of the Army
CDR Timothy Tibbits, USN
Ms. Patti Wilmer, Dept. of the Army
Dr. Jim Currie, faculty
Col Tim Considine, USA, faculty
Col Jim Schmidli, USA, faculty
Dr. Alan Gropman, faculty

• Consolidation of news organizations, which has the potential to significantly influence the objectivity of news reporting and the credibility of news sources.
• A news media industry that is a powerful force in shaping national and worldwide opinion. If the news media are the world’s watchdog, how can society protect itself from abuse of this power?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You are just so wrong


bajaDean, don't bother with the master-troll, he's just threatened by you, the truths you expose, and the fact that you come out infinitely more credible than his lying ass. Oh and he'll pretend not to see what you read (his biggest lie, evidenced dozens of times by the "plonked" ones). Don't get mad, have pity, he's a disturbed individual...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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isobars



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More proof: Just over the last few days, three major networks have deliberately denied discussions of Benghazi. Interviewees and panelists who brought it up were told in various ways to "Stifle it. We'll discuss that whole topic at length in a minute." Of course, that never happened.

Just so you BSNBC fans understand, that's because the leftstream media are unwilling to admit they made a huge mistake four years ago, and know that the whole, true Benghazi story would trigger a landslide against their beloved Obama. If a Republican president had done anything this wrong on so many levels, we wouldn't even know it was raining on the east coast.
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bajaDean



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
More proof: Just over the last few days, three major networks have deliberately denied discussions of Benghazi. Interviewees and panelists who brought it up were told in various ways to "Stifle it. We'll discuss that whole topic at length in a minute." Of course, that never happened.

Just so you BSNBC fans understand, that's because the leftstream media are unwilling to admit they made a huge mistake four years ago, and know that the whole, true Benghazi story would trigger a landslide against their beloved Obama. If a Republican president had done anything this wrong on so many levels, we wouldn't even know it was raining on the east coast.



Lets look at the record, Reygun in Lebonon had was it over 300 Marines killed on his watch due to negligence. And reygun cut and ran from Lebonon after this happened and never brought the perps to justice. This was the beginning of massive terrorism against the US because of Reyguns cut and running principle on terrorism.

Under Bush he was told 30 days before in a PDB that Bin Laden to attack the US using planes, and Bush did not end his vacation note at that time record setting vacation time. The day before 9-11 Ashcroft made a speech that the Bush administration was cutting funding to counter terrorism. Bush after the PDB (presidential daily briefing) did not hold one high level meeting about the threat, and even prevented the person in charge of counter terrorism from being allowed to hold such top level meetings. His administration denied these requests. Richard Clark head of counter terrorism was the only Bush administration official willing to testify under oath about the entire subject, all other administration including Bush would not testify under oath for all issues. So we can assume Clarks statement to be accurate.

Under Bush the attacks on american embassy's/consulates and death of americans and personnel at these american interests around the world were record setting.

How many americans lost their lives to remove gadafy in Libia...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bajaDean wrote:
...Reygun in Lebonon had was it over 300 Marines killed on his watch due to negligence . . . . . . . . Bush he was told 30 days before in a PDB that Bin Laden to attack the US using planes, and Bush did not end his vacation note at that time record setting vacation time . . . . . . . . The day before 9-11 Ashcroft made a speech that the Bush administration was cutting funding to counter terrorism . . . . . Bush did not hold one high level meeting about the threat, and even prevented the person in charge of counter terrorism from being allowed to hold such top level meetings . . . . . . .

All of this is clear evidence that Obama could not (or did not) effectively predict those outcomes nor effectively plan for them.



bajaDean wrote:

How many americans lost their lives to remove gadafy in Libia...

And here we see clear evidence that the GOP candidate (and/or Bush, whichever you prefer) COULD effectively plan and execute a surgical strike (either before or after it occurred, whichever feels good to you).

And, while we're at it, Obama gets some of the blame for losing the Titanic. Romney, however, (or Mike Fick, since he's an engineering genius) can be credited for finding it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is another perfect example how the right wing media acts like George Sorros is some kind of big donor to liberal causes and act like he is the biggest and there are no right wing donors to the right.


Well you do not hear the media bring up for instance Olin, third generation right wing trust fund kid, who gave his entire net wealth to right wing media control starting in the early 70s. In todays money it is will over a billion dollars making what Sorros puts in chicken feed.

and here are some more.... there are many right wing trust fund kids in this right wing media control behavior...



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http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
David H. Koch in 1996. He and his brother Charles are lifelong libertarians and have quietly given more than a hundred million dollars to right-wing causes.

http://www.rense.com/general70/koch.htm
Consider that Fred Koch, Charles's father, was a charter member of the John Birch Society, which pushed for the repeal of income taxes and civil rights legislation. Practicing a racist agenda on behalf of the White wealthy elite, the JBS was formed on the pretext of fighting Communism. Fred's interest in the JBS allegedly stemmed from having witnessed the Purges under Stalin in the 1930's. Despite his concern for Stalin's victims, Fred still remained in Russia to make money by upgrading Communist oil refineries.

In 1977, the Kochs provided the funds to launch the nation’s first libertarian think tank, the Cato Institute. According to the Center for Public Integrity, between 1986 and 1993 the Koch family gave eleven million dollars to the institute. Today, Cato has more than a hundred full-time employees, and its experts and policy papers are widely quoted and respected by the mainstream media. It describes itself as nonpartisan, and its scholars have at times been critical of both parties. But it has consistently pushed for corporate tax cuts, reductions in social services, and laissez-faire environmental policies.

Bob Perry

http://truth-out.org/news/item/12391-the-koch-brothers-and-the-road-to-citizens-united


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baka, they don't read your posts. They will believe the media is liberal until they die because the whole house of cards tumbles down in the harsh light of truth.
Remember, many conservatives think FOX is controlled by Obama.
When you are that far gone there is little point in debate.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lets see if the media covers this one...


http://www.nationofchange.org/uaw-files-charges-against-romney-his-auto-bail-out-profiteering-1351783724

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In 2009, Ann Romney partnered with her husband's key donor, billionaire Paul Singer, who secretly bought a controlling interest in Delphi Auto, the former GM auto parts division. Singer's hedge fund, Elliott Management, threatened to cut off GM's supply of steering columns unless GM and the government's TARP auto bail-out fund provided Delphi with huge payments. While the US treasury complained this was "extortion," the hedge funds received, ultimately, $12.9 billion in taxpayer subsidies.

As a result, the shares Singer and Romney bought for just 67 cents are today worth over $30, a 4,000% gain. Singer's hedge fund made a profit of $1.27 billion and the Romneys' tens of millions.

The UAW complaint calls for Romney to reveal exactly how much he made off Delphi -- and continues to make. The Singer syndicate, once in control of Delphi, eliminated every single UAW job --25,000-- and moved almost all auto parts production to Mexico and China where Delphi now employs 25,000 auto parts workers.
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